For those of you who own both which do you prefer and why?

Head to head comparison pros/cons!

Details!

I've used both, and haven't seen any reactions to THU, unlike AM where I get hits galore.

Personally, I think the jury is still out on PT. I've seen great hits with AT, but little to nothing from the other mixes.

The main problem here is the actual number of posted hits from each of these products; AM destroys THU by this metric, but its also been around for years.

Last I checked, THU only had 1 posted close...........

(09-05-2015 9:48 AM)theLaw Wrote:  I've used both, and haven't seen any reactions to THU, unlike AM where I get hits galore.

Personally, I think the jury is still out on PT. I've seen great hits with AT, but little to nothing from the other mixes.

The main problem here is the actual number of posted hits from each of these products; AM destroys THU by this metric, but its also been around for years.

Last I checked, THU only had 1 posted close...........

AM is definitely a CLOSER. HOWEVER, it also intimidates. You either close or you don't.. The more I # close the more aggressive I become # closing. The more I succeed # closing the more aggressive I become pursuing for dates.. Then I get shot down by beautiful women because I showed too much interest.. Its like the high testosterone guy having sex with hookers... His patience level is so low he can't wait for a normal beauty for sex he has to always go to hookers for instant gratification.

Personally, Am is great but be prepared to be shot down.. If your 25 and you have options (parties, work, bars, nightclubs etc) you can go out every week or multiple times a week and hunt.

If your like me 45, you are severely limited.. I don't even stay up late . I work in my own business at home. I have a hard time meeting beautiful women and when I do I don't like the all or nothing fuck ups. Because my chances are dwindling when I play that game.

AM seems to shine but its all too instant gratification ONS bar scene.

This is what is attracting me to THU. It seems more laid back.. More boyfriendish.. More playful.. More upbeat but it gets women to chase you.. SOme have described it to have pull like ammo and l2k and also like NA. I've heard it all .. It also sounds like the scent is a winner.. Vanilla gets a lot of compliments. FishDude said it should be named STALKER because women who live 20 km away were finding him when they shouldn't.

Honestly I don't have much faith in PT products... they have been a let down for me. Latina never did much.. AT gives me potent headaches too much mones in there I have to wash it off after an hour or so, and captain the Androstadienone in ONE usage gets to me worse than any AM or l2k app. Its hard to stay optimistic when your facing one let down after another....

My mind tells me be opened minded and see where THU leads.. But reading the reviews tells me its more a dud compared to AM.

Still I have a 10 ml on order.. I will test it out for shits and giggles.. But in the end you and your game will change your results with women, not just the latest products coming out.

dsouza

If you've already decided it to be a dud before testing it, then this is what it will be for you - a dud.

Souza, I really think you would love Nude, you should put it on your to do list. My 2nd fav after AV. Women really respond to it
Or maybe you can add something like Bliss to your AM to tone the vibe and make it more playful

THU never struck me as all that interesting either, and the reports don't lend much credence to its effectiveness. The jury is still out for me on PT as a whole. Every vendor has bad mixes for certain users - yes, even LAL and Apex. ETFZ has shown major promise in my experience, and the reports on Z69, AT, and TS definitely make me want to test these mixes. I don't think any of us can be sure one way or another in testing only 2 to 3 mixes from this vendor, but to each their own.

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(09-06-2015 12:01 AM)RussianWolf Wrote:  Souza, I really think you would love Nude, you should put it on your to do list. My 2nd fav after AV. Women really respond to it
Or maybe you can add something like Bliss to your AM to tone the vibe and make it more playful

Nude is an alright social. I'm more a fan of SXD-9 myself, but both have their uses.

Bliss will not make AM, or anything it's used with more playful, in my experience. Because the Androsterone Sulfate is steered with Androstenone, it takes on a more serious tone. The playfulness one might expect from -Androsterone Sulfate is almost entirely non-existent with Bliss. If anything, adding Bliss to AM will result in an even more serious vibe. Bliss is IDGAF, CORE is playful.

Nude hits pretty quick, seems like SXD9 takes about fifteen min according to the reports I've read. I've also read that the gel doesn't diffuse well in cold weather and with winter coming I figured Nude would be the way to go. But I've heard that SXD9 is better than Nude, so I'm kinda torn on that... didn't mean to get off subject t

(09-06-2015 12:26 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  THU never struck me as all that interesting either, and the reports don't lend much credence to its effectiveness. The jury is still out for me on PT as a whole. Every vendor has bad mixes for certain users - yes, even LAL and Apex. ETFZ has shown major promise in my experience, and the reports on Z69, AT, and TS definitely make me want to test these mixes. I don't think any of us can be sure one way or another in testing only 2 to 3 mixes from this vendor, but to each their own.

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Nude is an alright social. I'm more a fan of SXD-9 myself, but both have their uses.

Bliss will not make AM, or anything it's used with more playful, in my experience. Because the Androsterone Sulfate is steered with Androstenone, it takes on a more serious tone. The playfulness one might expect from -Androsterone Sulfate is almost entirely non-existent with Bliss. If anything, adding Bliss to AM will result in an even more serious vibe. Bliss is IDGAF, CORE is playful.

SO you've tried core AM? What were your findings?
dsouza

Here's a trend I'm noticing about using AM outside of bars.

On first meet anywhere young women are attracted, seem to be less intimidated , more talkative etc and its easy to # close.. On subsequent visits their guard goes up with Am.. Anyone else notice this? They seem more distanced? More afraid.. Its like now they KNOW your possibly a sex maniac!!

I've had this experience over and over again with Am on women 20-30.

This is why I think its a great PICKUP and ONS product.

I think in daytime or outside of ONS environment it may be great to use AM to # close, and then THU or another mone for dating.

Just my experience so far.. It could just be in my head but its happened way too many times for me to think it coincidence.

Anyone else have this experience?

dsouza

Crucial question: Is it true? Are you a sex maniac?