I've only used this molecule 5 times so far and still doing further testing. Quote from Alpha-Dream:

Quote:Molecule "D2" was discovered from the blind molecule testing project at the pherotruth forum. It's chemical name is 5beta-20-pregnen-3alpha-ol. With a melting point range of 142-145 degrees Celsius, it has a comparable evaporation rate to that of other known human pheromones. Chemically, it is structurally most similar to androstenol, except for the key ethylene substitution located at C16 in D ring.

This compound will likely spark an intensive interest in other potential human pheromone compounds bearing this key substitution - including modification of C16 substitutions, with groups that have been further alkylated, saturated, or dehydrogenated: specifics include ethyne, allene, or other nucleophilic groups. Also to be studied will be the change of the parent compound (the 4-ring structure), and specifically changes to C3 in A-ring, dehydrogenation of C4, and studies of the isometric conformation to the CH3 group at D5 in the parent structure.

Quote:Short note courtesy from Wiserd:

20-40 mcg was the range I tested in, and on 20-30 year olds.

I didn't notice any difference in effect based on gender. I'd probably used about 25-30mcg at a shot. The stuff is strongly attention/interest generating. Very "I'm a rock star" aura without any of the intimidation of most "alpha" mones. I usually don't get beautifying effects at all for some reason, even when everyone else does, except for bright colors being rather preternatural, but I got them on this stuff to some small extent, especially in bright light. I felt like I had a photographer's or architect's eye and was very attracted to the contrast, color and order in the world around me. Pago, in contrast, had that effect applied to people.

I didn't get to try the stuff as much as I'd like so don't quote me on this, but D2 seemed to work best on people who knew me the least. It's a great 'first impressions' molecule, but also strongly potentiating. People REMEMBERED me, and in a very positive way. I've been exposed to a lot of Glace and that didn't seem to dull the effects of D2. It doesn't seem to interact badly with any other mones I used, either, including;

Androstanone ,androstadienone,a-nol , b-nol ,est ,small amount of androsterone

Because I used mol G2 in the same environment that I used mol D2 I don't have complete separation of the effects of one vs another in terms of "how people react the day after."

Incidentally, it wasn't very good for my attention span at work. It's probably best to save it for your freetime.

I'd love to hear what you find with this stuff. Best to you, man!

My notes pulled from my journal:

Quote:Molecule D2: Good thing I tested out the 5 mcg's first. My visual perception changed immediately upon a spray to the throat. I felt lightly.....drunk or disoriented, kind of like being in a trance. I went up to 15 mcg and just had to lie down. This molecule is crazy. I get some kind of tunnel vision. Very light headed. I started to laugh and make retarded childish and crude jokes. Things that a teenager would do and get a rise on and it started to get on my friend's nerves. Him getting irritated only fueled my trolling outburst even further. Needs further testing.

Quote:Applied 5mcg Molecule D2 after the socials in L2K waned at around 1:30 AM. It was all I needed. Extremely attention grabbing, potentiating with other pheromones, special notable person or what I call "The Beacon of Light"/"Arrow pointing down at me" effect.

Massive Deer in the headlights look from men and women from here on out. It's contrasting visually and socially. Visually, light and dark colors alternates in intensity for the first 10 minutes of application. I feel like people don't know how to first approach you cause your pheromone clouds leaves them enchanted. I've seen no signs that it hinders social interactions with strangers in a negative way. The D2 adds a light-hearted and care-free time to the mix. "I don't give a shit and everything is fucking funny". I think D2 has a large range. I've seen hit's as far as 10-15 20-25 feet + . Extremely volatile molecule. First timers should try it anywhere from 1 - 5 mcg for sure.

For those who have tried this molecule during the blind test, did you have any similar or different experience with subsequent testing?

Hi Zerosix,

what you´ve quoted from your journal is pretty much in line with what i´ve see with that juice !

that´s about D2 ....

and .... you´ve used mol G2 as well ... ?

Pago

sounds like it came form woodstock...

More like Bonaroo, Burning man, or Coachella

I haven't tried G2 yet, waiting until that is released. For now, E2 and Androsterone-S is the next single molecules that I want to touch.

(06-29-2012 2:25 PM)zerosix85 Wrote:  More like Bonaroo, Burning man, or Coachella

I haven't tried G2 yet, waiting until that is released. For now, E2 and Androsterone-S is the next single molecules that I want to touch.

Does anyone have any thoughts on grabbing some 5beta-20-pregnen-3alpha-ol ?

The stuff I can find is expensive. Chris has a lot going on, and it may be a while before he gets around to this. ...

Is it possible for us to be proactive at a reasonable price?

So I've tested D2 with the following:

Glace
Luomo Amore
Laid Hair Paste
L2K
True Love

Works perfectly so far in generating attention from my observations. The only 2 negative reactions that I've remember so far is

1. Glace - Male co-worker who I've just met was initially passive aggressive. He avoided paying attention to me and only talked to me when he had to or needed something. Sometime later during the night, we talk about music taste. I swear to god, I'm talking to a music elitist here. The guy would criticize some of my taste in Hip-Hop music. I just stood my ground in my taste and just expanded on the type of music I like and through elaborating, got his respect. You have to be a music snob to understand one.
2. L'uomo Amore - Negative hit was from my other job waiting tables with these 2 mexican bus boys at this other restaurant I work in. One would avoid eye contact with me but make light conversations and the other one would not face me unless I fully had his attention. I think it was due to the fact that they were Hispanic. The culture doesn't blur gender lines well and I think is sometimes homophobic. It wasn't until I buffered the mix during bathroom break with 1 spray of Glace and 2.5 mcg of Beta-Androstenol that I saw myself climb out of social purgatory. I managed to break their social barrier and gain trust as the hours went on at work. At the end of the night during breakdown, the 2 bus boys decided to help me clean up and share their beer with me.

This negative reaction was among the minority of total hits I've received. D2 more often than not added a positive experience to strangers or acquaintances who did not know me well. I suspect that D2 may clash with any mix that are heavy in attention grabbing molecules (DHEAS, Androstanone). Still going to need more tests but perhaps in conjunction with those individual molecules.

Sample B2 works amazing with DHEAS !!

Pago

(07-04-2012 2:35 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Sample B2 works amazing with DHEAS !!

Pago

B2 or D2? I'd love to get some guidance on B2 if that's what you meant, but we should probably move it to a different thread. I'd stopped testing when someone else in the office got a headache (maybe not even because of me) and figured I'd wait to see what other people said, especially in regards to dosage, before I went forward.

It could all just be a coincidence on my part, and no fault of B2 at all.

(07-04-2012 2:39 PM)wiserd Wrote:  B2 or D2? I'd love to get some guidance on B2 if that's what you meant, but we should probably move it to a different thread. I'd stopped testing when someone else in the office got a headache (maybe not even because of me) and figured I'd wait to see what other people said, especially in regards to dosage, before I went forward.

It could all just be a coincidence on my part, and no fault of B2 at all.

Oops sry ... typo ..

i meant D2 ....

Pago

I should of explained myself better and I'm sorry for that. D2 is an amazing molecule but mixing it with attention grabbing molecules wouldn't make for an OD effect. It just depends on how much attention do you want to bring to yourself. I almost firmly believe that D2 should be called "Attention whore".

Ladies and Gentlemen, use this with your daily tried and true social or sex bomb mix and laugh in your head or out loud at your own discretion. You'll understand what I mean by saying "Trophy girlfriend/boyfriend/person".

I would not wear this molecule if I wanted to be modest or maintain a low profile. Rules out bank robberies, police chases, weddings and funerals. Everything else is fine though.

Could possibly explains why SOME of my close friends and family would initially be annoyed with me. After a while of subsequent exposures to D2, they would be used to it and slightly be affected by it.