This question is for those of you lucky enough to be able to smell Androstenone and have it smell like cat piss. Unfortunately I can't smell Androstenone at all. It is odorless to me so I can't figure this out on my own.

Anyone figure out the maximum Androstenone you can apply daily without needing a cover scent?

Why would you want to use it without a cover scent? Unless the product itself is scented, you probably should use something for even the smallest amounts.

Max dose before OD is a different matter and highly individual, you'll have to test your way to that one.

(03-21-2015 9:54 AM)Jolly Jumper Wrote:  Why would you want to use it without a cover scent? Unless the product itself is scented, you probably should use something for even the smallest amounts.

There must be an amount small enough that wouldn't require a cover scent. Otherwise many guys in their early 20s who naturally produce good amounts of Androstenone would need a cover scent for their natural pheromone signature.

I'm interested in knowing the maximum amount of Androstenone where you are below this threshold where no cover scent is required.

(03-21-2015 9:54 AM)Jolly Jumper Wrote:  Max dose before OD is a different matter and highly individual, you'll have to test your way to that one.

I'm not asking about OD. I'm talking strictly scent - smelling like cat piss to others.

My guess is that you probably wouldn't need a cover scent for 1 mcg of Androstenone or less. But I have no way to test this since I can't smell Androstenone.

Also very interested in this one as I can't smell anything bad from mones.
Yesterday I run 2Xist & 2LB with a spray of Armani Code. 4 hours in somebody said that it smells like shit around here and one out of 8 person agreed.

(03-27-2015 3:46 PM)Riverce Wrote:  Also very interested in this one as I can't smell anything bad from mones.
Yesterday I run 2Xist & 2LB with a spray of Armani Code. 4 hours in somebody said that it smells like shit around here and one out of 8 person agreed.

I only experienced this with overdosing on Primal Instinct that was 5 years old. Sometimes I'll wear something and I'll catch a whiff of cat piss...but it seems like the scent is fleeting.

I personally would just say, if accused, "I don't smell anything, what are you talking about?" Try and make them feel stupid for saying anything. If they persist, tell 'em to fuck off. I guess you could even enlighten 'em with a negative by saying, "I hear less manly-men sometimes can smell manly-pheromones, which apparently smell like cat-piss...Funny, you say you smell it? I don't smell anything." You don't even have to fess-up about wearing any. Just divert them, and make 'em feel stupid for saying anything in the first place.

Yeah that's a good reaction but the thing is that he didn't point out that I'm the one who smells like shit. But somehow I'm pretty sure that he smelled the mones as it wasn't the first time.

I'm bumping this thread because no one answered the original question. People changed the topic and talked about unrelated topics.

I think it's zero.If it's unscented then if it's enough to diffuse and get inhaled then it's gonna smell.The smell "is" the androstenone.

(05-05-2015 12:04 PM)stefdude Wrote:  I think it's zero.If it's unscented then if it's enough to diffuse and get inhaled then it's gonna smell.The smell "is" the androstenone.

Interesting.

You can order Androstenone from AD at 125 nanograms per spray. You think if you applied 125 nanograms of Androstenone to your chest people who can smell Androstenone will be able to smell it?

I can't smell Androstenone at all. But I was thinking that at this level it would be so faint that even those who can smell it would not notice it.

(05-05-2015 12:18 PM)metaltree Wrote:  Interesting.

You can order Androstenone from AD at 125 nanograms per spray. You think if you applied 125 nanograms of Androstenone to your chest people who can smell Androstenone will be able to smell it?

I can't smell Androstenone at all. But I was thinking that at this level it would be so faint that even those who can smell it would not notice it.

There are 2 kinds of people who can smell it.The very sensitive ones (what we call here 10%, which could be accurate) and the others.The others are about 30%.I know what I've said above but it's quite possible that for the non sensitive smellers low androstenone could have an effect but the smell passes undetectable or almost undetectable.The mcg required for the effect may be lower than the mcg required for the smell.Only if that is true then it can happen for the non sensitives.

For the sensitives I strongly believe that you can't affect them without them smelling it.Check this: http://www.livescience.com/1885-men-scen...tions.html

"The polarization of sensitivity is really also quite extreme," she said. "Some people are overwhelmed by an amount 10-billion-fold dilution while some can't smell anything at all."