Normally when I start talking about the single molecules I own, the convo swings over to a bunch of things I either don't yet own or haven't mentioned. I am always very thankful when these topics come up, but I am seriously asking questions only about the mones I actually own.

Androstadienone 5mcg
Androstenone 5mcg
DHEA 12.5 mcg
Beta Androstenol 5mcg

Using only those. Any combination.

I am 40, African American, good looking, alpha type (I wear biker boots, leather jacket, goatee, bald head, well trimmed) I am athletic in shape, look younger than 40 (like early 30's), well spoken but straight to the point. INFJ introvert, but I am in both collections and sales.

I like 'em young. Between 23-35. I'm not in it for morality, but rather adventure. African American, White, it doesn't matter.

Using only those. Any combination. Please show me how to create

A). Attraction
B). Breaking Friendzone
C). Fallout

I have been searching and even asking for a while, but never in this capacity. I am likely to relocate in just a few weeks, but there are two different ones I would like to see gain an "interest" in me (See: A,B, and C)

I don't know much about DHEA so I'll leave that for someone else.

Androstadienone is a comforter. It's most useful and effective when Auntie Flo is coming to see your girl, but it is a fine thing to wear anytime there is a lot of stress in her life. Think about the way some ladies can use sex to feel better when they feel overwhelmed.

Beta Androstenol is a connector. It needs steering to be used for romance. If you can use your personality to push that connection in the direction you want this one is invaluable in any of the situations you mentioned. It won't do much by itself except give you the opportunity to use your charm...it has no charm of it's own.

Androstenone, what can I say? It's porn for the subconscious mind. You never know what you'll get. Stimulation? Fear? Anger? Guilt? some mix of all of the above?

I don't know how you can mix and match to get to your goals. That's why I never encourage guys to start with single molecules. Sorry. I know that's not what you want to hear.

You are also missing the other two of the big five, but I guess you already know that.

ETA: I hope you know that I'm not bashing or trying to piss you off, just being as honest and direct as you were in your post. I really liked the way you asked honest questions in a direct fashion and I do apologize that I don't have a good answer for you.

I'm not exactly a beginner. I have used different matches to do all kinds of things, but I also don't believe I know everything. Right now I am out of all of my best stuff and down to a couple of small samples of Ascend and Celebrity. Saving the Ascend for a job interview and possibly to make a few sales, Celebrity to possibly end the day with. When I can afford some more, I will likely restock some Androstadienone , Cohesion, Evolve, Wolf, A314 (spray), P83, TAC, New Pheromone Additive, Ascend, and Xist. For now, I'm down to my "El Cheapo" group...lol. I've been using them, but I want a serious user, who has done this before to give me some tips based on the above question. DHEA is freaking powerful bro. Getting some more ASAP. None has always been pretty interesting, leaves an imprint.

I just want someone who REALLY has a handle on single molecules to give me something to work with here. I'm doing fine in my own right, but I want to have some fun here. It was in my post. Thank man.

(01-14-2016 9:20 PM)Crucible Wrote:  I'm not exactly a beginner. I have used different matches to do all kinds of things, but I also don't believe I know everything. Right now I am out of all of my best stuff and down to a couple of small samples of Ascend and Celebrity. Saving the Ascend for a job interview and possibly to make a few sales, Celebrity to possibly end the day with. When I can afford some more, I will likely restock some Androstadienone , Cohesion, Evolve, Wolf, A314 (spray), P83, TAC, New Pheromone Additive, Ascend, and Xist. For now, I'm down to my "El Cheapo" group...lol. I've been using them, but I want a serious user, who has done this before to give me some tips based on the above question. DHEA is freaking powerful bro. Getting some more ASAP. None has always been pretty interesting, leaves an imprint.

I just want someone who REALLY has a handle on single molecules to give me something to work with here. I'm doing fine in my own right, but I want to have some fun here. It was in my post. Thank man.

Why do people still never mention anything about NA? I think it is one of the biggest thread on this forum. Pretty legendary. Go read from page 1 man it's exactly what you're looking for. I was looking for the same, found NA read it from page 1 to like 100 something decided to buy, used it myself, problems solved.

Biggest thing about NA that is not mentioned well anywhere though is diffusion - with apex's fuse and frost scent as cover I found it a godlike. Without those cover more subtle.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Nude-Alpha

Here you go just in case you can't find it. It's worth a investment

As in Nude Alpha? (BTW...Alfa Maschio is one of my faves, but will only buy if I have True Love coming in).

LOL...back to what I said tho in my OP...

CRAP DUDE!!! I'm impressed already!!! Trying to scrape up some nickels and dimes as we speak!!! Dang dude!!!

(01-14-2016 9:57 PM)Crucible Wrote:  CRAP DUDE!!! I'm impressed already!!! Trying to scrape up some nickels and dimes as we speak!!! Dang dude!!!

Is that sarcasm? Can't tell. Anyway sorry if you wanted to only discuss single molecule combos. I think you want to start with none amounts and figure out ratios for dienone and Beta Androstenol. Not sure if I d recommend Dhea. 5mcg none and 40-50 dienone and start with lower Beta Androstenol 10-20. But if you seriously want all 3 effects that you mentioned in op I recommend NA.

(01-14-2016 10:02 PM)junglejuice Wrote:  Is that sarcasm? Can't tell. Anyway sorry if you wanted to only discuss single molecule combos. I think you want to start with none amounts and figure out ratios for dienone and Beta Androstenol. Not sure if I d recommend Dhea. 5mcg none and 40-50 dienone and start with lower Beta Androstenol 10-20. But if you seriously want all 3 effects that you mentioned in op I recommend NA.

Not kidding at all. Looked it up on House of Pheromones too...(my go to) and sheez bro. I'm actually kind of scared considering I only want an adventure, but still. Would you be up for PM's or have you written on this? I have amillion questions about this stuff...I HAD NO IDEA.

Sure. Here are some of my favorite posts in that thread.
breaking friend zone

(09-23-2013 4:52 PM)Scar Wrote:  Ok now that I've had some decent time with experimenting with NA there is something definitely individualistic and rare about it...

I have AV, Glace, Cohesion and samples of Possess Alpha, Wolf and the ACE pack. SteveO was totally awesome to include those and I will absolutely be coming back to test out some of his other products cause of that. With Garry as well.

Anyhow, I can certainly see now what the people mean when they say is totally in a class of its own. In my last post I had said Mariah was invited me to her place... Well this is what transpired:

6:25 AM: It was Tuesday and a txt from Mariah woke me up at around 6 am. I normally get up around 7:30. I was bit bothered but it then it came back to mind that NA was just still doing its job by this "imprinting" effect. Were just talking about casual bs and then she brought up the study session we had planned the day before for psych. I told her that I would meet her at around 10:00 and that we could start then.

6:45 AM: Plop myself back into bed and turned my phone on silent.

7:30 AM: Bastard of alarm clock woke me up. I'm irritable lol but still looking forward to the study session planned. I jump in the shower and get dressed and gather my book and notes. Also made myself breakfast.

8:45 AM: I put 2 drops of NA on. 1 spit between wrist/upper forearm ( I tried to smear as much of it out as I can ) and 1 drop on the base of my jawline. I leave.

9:15 AM: I arrive at her place early. Her parents aren't home. I knock on the door and she opens it with a big smile plastered on her face and almost shouted "Hi!". This throws me off a little because I'm still tired so I jumped a little when she said that lol She gives me a hug which is normal and leads me into her living room where she has everything set up on the coffee table. We start talking about walking dead since she had it on and then about Supernatural lol she's maintaining eye contact a bit longer than normal when we usually talk.

9:40 AM: Were sitting next to each other and were talking about different types of memory and the processing of it. One of the topics were supposed to learn for the upcoming test. At this point I'm actually starting to get self effects from NA. I'm a bit more quiet than I first once was when I walked in. Strange for me considering I like to talk. Another effect was that I felt hell of lot more calmer than usual vs occasionally anxious. She brings up how come I haven't really spoken to her during the end of the year and during summer. I told her I was just busy with life and got distracted. She brings up how she's been thinking about me a lot and how she missed how we used to hang out. In my head, I didn't know if this meant she was going to friend zone me again or she was talking about something on a deeper level.

10:30 AM: We studied and pretty much finished up. So now were just reminiscing about high school. She moves closer and leans herself on my shoulder (almost exactly near my app point) and places her hand on my thigh. I play it cool not trying to go in for the kill yet. I'm waiting for the right moment. She has never done this before.

10:45 AM: We continue talking and I told her that I have to leave to go to do my report. She reaches for my hand and squeezes it and tells me that I could just use her computer. Then though... This is where now I am a hardcore believer now in mones. She held this certain specific gaze. It wasn't deer in the headlights per se but the biggest bedroom eyes that I have ever experienced. I was quiet. I didn't know how to react. I froze up like a little bitch. She then stood up and she went in for a kiss. SHE MADE THE MOVE! I have never had this happened before and I can honestly say that it felt good. I was also extremely relieved that she did the work and took the pressure off of me freezing up. We unlock lips and then she said "Sorry, I just had to do that". In my mind I'm flippin out all happy but my expression in reality was ... We talked for a bit. It was mainly about why she liked me now and not then and about that we should start dating and we are now. All thanks to NA.

I really like NA and its because it works with my personality. I don't really make moves too often, that being said I still do, but I can definitely turn a topic sexual and I can make a girl laugh easily. NA, IMO, seems to be the variable where it takes the work out of making the move yourself and makes the girl make a move. Though this is an isolated incident so I cannot say for sure but this is what I experienced so far.

There are plenty of other things I'd like to report on NA but for a later time since I don't want this post taking up the page. I just felt like I had to be really specific with what I find and not generalize too much on a product. I feel NA still has more potential that I am not seeing or not being put to use fully and I would really love to find out what exactly that is. So more testing for sure. The 30 ml is worth it.

Thanks Garry. You really influenced a drastic outcome with this product.