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please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-05-2012 3:51 PM

Hi im new, live in uk, age 19, and am south asian looking for girls between 18-25

in my area there are not a lot of hot girls and a hell of a lot of hot girls have boyfriends and there is so much competition with other men

i wanted to know which pheromones i should pick for my approach

i like to approach women during the day in malls, streets and stores

when i approach during the day I would say something like ' excuse me, I find u are very (any of these words, attractive, beautiful, pretty, ect) and I think that you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks'

As u can see this is very hit and miss ( well more miss then hit). it forces women to reciprocate my interest or reject my interest (well more reject) on the spot

i want to do my approach and then get the number and then set up a date and then finish the deal in a park, car, toilet because i live at home with my parents lol

please tell me if there is a pheromone that will help me get laid with 80% to 99% of the hot girls i approach

also will the pheromone make women approach me during the day

thanks please reply


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - eyeofra - 04-05-2012 4:01 PM

Welcome to the forum jaytop21!

Well, let's see. There are multiple routes one can take to the goal of getting laid. It sounds like you use "direct game". For direct game I would recommend either Alfa Maschio/Corporativo (Alpha Dream) or Aqua Vitae. These are highly sexual blends.

But I must recommend fastburn Glace as well, it really kick ass.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Q-Tips - 04-05-2012 4:24 PM

Hi Jay, and welcome to the forum.
Its an interesting choice of strategy you choosen for finding your women. The good thing with it, is by going straight down to the case, you wouldnt waste any time with the mumbo jumbo talk. You just say what you want and if she's not interested, you'll just move on to the next. As you said, there will be a lot of rejects, but it will also give some luck for you. And thats the down side : A lot of rejections.
Maybe mones would help you with this problem, but please remember this : Mones can help strenghten anyones mood. But it wont be a hypnotiser. If a girl gives you a complete "NO", then wearing mones will not help at all. Or to say it like this : Mones will not give you 99% hits by approaching strangers in a park. It will still be a hit and miss. But in cases where you before could get a "Maybe" from a girl, you might now get a "Yes".
For a couple of years ago, i read about someone claiming Androstenone to increase a mans attractivity towards women with 10%. That would say if a woman rated a man 6/10, then she would rate him 7/10 with none. Thats all... He would still have to do his work right no matter how good the none worked. I dont know if that is correct, but i like to think so.

Anyway, pheromones who would do the trick for you should be something sexual, but not to much dominant, as it could easily scare away people. After all you are looking up strangers. Mixing it with some social mones to ease up any tention could be an good idea.
I could easily recomend standard products like Alpha Machio, and actually it works well. But there are so many great companies out there. Those companies i often stick to are : Liquid Alchemy labs, Alpha Dream and Love Potion. I had good experience with both their products and service from those three.

Good luck


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - CanadianGuy45 - 04-05-2012 4:54 PM

Eyeofra and Q-tipgave you some good advice. Also possibly Certo spiked with a shot of AM. Also you could add some Glace and Androstadienone for good measure.

I also suggest that you read many product reviews otherwise you will be like me, and have to rearrange your house looking for place to store your huge 'mone' stash.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - eyeofra - 04-05-2012 5:27 PM

Very well said q-tips.

The best thing is to just read a few journals, dabble in the reviews sections and see what sounds good to YOU! Hehe

Q-tips also makes a good point: for cold approaches something more social and less threatening might serve you better. It really depends on how you come across.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - halo0073 - 04-05-2012 5:33 PM

Welcome to the forum. I doubt any pheromone or combo of them will result in 80-99% results. The only thing that'll get you a 99% close rate is a roofie. Let the guys here guide you and you'll do fine.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - CanadianGuy45 - 04-05-2012 5:42 PM

(04-05-2012 5:33 PM)halo0073 Wrote:  Welcome to the forum. I doubt any pheromone or combo of them will result in 80-99% results. The only thing that'll get you a 99% close rate is a roofie. Let the guys here guide you and you'll do fine.


I agree with you Halo. To hit that percentile the police may be involved. One should just start with being happy with the positive effects that these products can provide, add in some game, and go from there.


P.S. Note to self: Chloroform is not a pheromone


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-06-2012 4:46 AM

hi guys thanks for the advice

would anyone of u recommend wingman element x (green label)

or wing man (black label)

when i emailed brad the main man of the company

he said that wingman element x (green label) would get me very good success for my short interaction game so do u think he is just saying that to make me buy the product

what do u guys think?

his assistant also emailed me saying that green label for the short interaction

and

wm (black label) to finish the deal on dates

but what do u experienced pheromone users think?

Is it all bark and no bite

Please reply thanks

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RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Q-Tips - 04-06-2012 6:35 AM

(04-06-2012 4:46 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Is it all bark and no bite

Please reply thanks

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I havent tried Wingman, and cant say much about it, but there is plenty of reports on their pheromones here at this site.

I wouldnt say mones would be any bark and no bite. Its more as a tool in your toolbox. Mones could be a good help for you but it wont do the job for you, and cant get the job done if its the only tool you got. Other tools who would be just as important are how you dress, your smile, the way you talk, the way you walk, your hair, good breath and so on.

Mones can also demand some experimenting from you. What would suit some other might not suit you. It depends a little of both your personality and your hormone production (Your age).
Another problem is your targets personality. One woman might be a real Alpha female and might not mind strond alpha signal, while other woman would maybe feel intimidated by it.

When you get it right, it can be a real amazing thing for you


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-06-2012 7:04 AM

Is there any pheromones that make women approach u?

thanks


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-07-2012 5:50 AM

would anyone have any other opinion to my question
If i was to pick just 1 pheromone whick would u choose


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - MuskCloud - 04-07-2012 6:55 AM

The short answer is 'No.'

That is not how women are wired. They play their part in the mating game and you play yours. I could go into a long explanation, but simply put, women attract and men act.

Women let you know they're interested with all kinds of subtle clues, but leave it to the man to do the chasing. This is true for approximately 99.99% of would-be romantic encounters between strangers, lol.

All pheromones will do is make those clues more obvious and appear in greater numbers. You still have to act on those messages women give you.

Musk

(04-06-2012 7:04 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Is there any pheromones that make women approach u?

thanks



RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Pagodeiro - 04-07-2012 7:00 AM

(04-06-2012 7:04 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Is there any pheromones that make women approach u?

thanks

Jaytop ...

the other members have already posted it ..

mones can soften the bumps in the road .. but they are not the kinda shortcut you're looking for !

Wingman X indeed increases your chances with women but from the kinda game you wanna do it wont take you far ..

what you do is simply hit and miss .. that's all !!

no mone in the world will get you what you are searching for .. mones are tools and there's a learning curve .. it's not spray on ... and you find yourself as an actor in an AXE commercial !!

Pago


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - shadowknight - 04-07-2012 3:00 PM

(04-07-2012 5:50 AM)jaytop21 Wrote:  If i was to pick just 1 pheromone whick would u choose

Where will you be using it?
What are you aiming toward alpha/ social/ sexual?


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-08-2012 2:20 PM

1. well can anyone who has tried wingman element x (green label) tell me what kind of results they got from day game approaches?

2. so u r saying the pheromones only work on women that already like u?

3. would approaching during the day using wingman element x (green label) talking for 10mins to 20 mins with fluff talk and instant date increase success?

4. I was really thinking of buying wingman element x (green label) so can experienced users of it tell me how u used it and what type of success u got from it during daytime approaches

thanks


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Alpha Dream - 04-08-2012 3:22 PM

Wacko2


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Pagodeiro - 04-08-2012 3:49 PM

(04-08-2012 3:22 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  Wacko2

Just the same i feel !!

There are some moments in life .. and this was just one of those moment when i'd read the last post from this boy ..

where i really not know what to say ...

jaytop .. it looks like you don't get it !!!!

Go reread all the answers you did get here in this thread and think about it ...

if anybody wants to waste more time in telling you that what you are doing is the wrong approach .. o.k.

but for my part ... it's wasted time with you !!

Pago


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - jaytop21 - 04-08-2012 4:01 PM

is there anyone that can answer my question, i never used pheromones so im asking experienced user questions so that they can lead me in the right direction.

If u feel like ur wasteing ur time then don't answer the question and don't tell me about my game

Atleast its straightforword and up front and not wasting time with women that are not interested


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - idontknow - 04-08-2012 4:20 PM

Didn't (re)read the rest of it, but here goes:
(04-08-2012 2:20 PM)jaytop21 Wrote:  1. well can anyone who has tried wingman element x (green label) tell me what kind of results they got from day game approaches?
-

2. so u r saying the pheromones only work on women that already like u?
No. They work on strangers as well. Probably even a bit better, as they convey some kind image of you.

3. would approaching during the day using wingman element x (green label) talking for 10mins to 20 mins with fluff talk and instant date increase success?
Very likely. I've rarely seen any mix reduce your chances with women, though some socials can make it harder to build sexual tension.

4. I was really thinking of buying wingman element x (green label) so can experienced users of it tell me how u used it and what type of success u got from it during daytime approaches
There's a bit of a review: http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Wingman-Element-X-Green-Bottle?highlight=green
Probably rather social?


thanks
Or you could do some reading and go with the forum favorites.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - misfit101 - 04-08-2012 6:29 PM

Listen Jaytop, I'm going to try and help you out by giving your a recommendation on the Pheromones, but you also really need to work on your apporach. Hopefully this will answer enough so you don't need to keep asking the same things.

Ok first of all without the correct approach, you can smell like liquid sun rays and you will still not improve your chances by any significant number. It's not the idea beghind your apprach, it is the way your doing it. Direct approachis risky, but you're right, it can work and it can get you good results, however direct does not mean you don't need to be subtle, or let me give you a better word: smooth.
If you go up to a lady and immediately ask her out she is going to have to make a decision about you without knowing much, so what you say and how you say it is everything.

Here's what your saying: "excuse me, I find u are very (any of these words, attractive, beautiful, pretty, ect) and I think that you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks."

First, you're already telling her that because she is beautiful you think you should spend time with her. BAD MOVE. This says: "I am a man who is impressed only by looks and a pretty face is all it takes to impress me".
Change that to an adjetive that is vague enough that she can't know for sure her looks are what captivated you. Attractive is a better word, but you're still not there.
How about saying:
-"Hi, I just saw you from over there and was captivated by you" or "I just really wanted to meet you."
or
-"Hi i just saw you from over there and thought you looked absolutely stunning" (this still might work because stunning is leaves enough room that it could mean that her looks weren't necessarily what you thought were stunning, but her poise, her energy, her fashion, etc. In other words, there is doubt of what you meant and doubt = mystery , mystery = curiosity , and curiosity = attraction.

Next, you wrote that you are saying "you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks". BAD MOVE AGAIN.
why? Because although it is good to be specific when you ask a girl on a date thi time frame is awkward, long, and just plaing strange. Instead of making you look decisive of what you want (which would work if you said "this weekend") you are putting pressure on the girl by saying she has to decide not only if she's going out with you, but if she's going out with you during that strangely specific time frame. I would advise to not put a time frame at all when you just started talking to her for the simple reason that you are asking her to make another specific choice when the first one is big enough. Instead I'd just go with "I'd like to get to know you better". It leaves her with the feeling of her not being pressured into anything and maybe having the chance to even decide to when she wants to continue to get to know you.
After you say "I'd like to get to know you better" or something along those lines switch her focus from making the decision immediately and start small talk. This will give you time to attract her and for the pheromones to affect her. After a successful small conversation be the first person to say you actually have to go, but would like to see her again. She will either say yes and give you her number or you can just ask for it. The whole interaction should take no more than 5 minutes so it is direct anc to the point, yet not short enough that it is forceful and seems like your making her make a choice about a complete stranger. You will find the answer will almost always be no if you do it this way. The way I'm telling you to do it will help you succeed noticibly more as long as you have good social skills.

Now for the pheromone: I'd go with a social, not a sexual. You don't want to appear predatory in this type of situation and you don't want to appear like you're looking just for sex. Night is different than Day. During the night we feed our shadows and primal desires, but during the day we look for connection and good energy.

Go with Glace by Alpha Dream (Fast Burn glace would be even better). It's a social that doesn't lower your status. If you know element X is well buffered, try it out and let us know how it works; if at HAX they said it would be good for day game, they have enough products to not need to reccomend a wrong one. However make sure they gave you a reccomendation knowing that it was direct day game approach and not direct night game approach.
Besides Glace I'd say you might want to try Hypnotica Social and Charisma by Love Potions. The latter should work quite well as well, but , get it in alcohol form so the diffusion is quicker.

Good luck and hurry up and get out there!


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Curiosity - 04-09-2012 3:58 AM

(04-05-2012 5:33 PM)halo0073 Wrote:  Welcome to the forum. I doubt any pheromone or combo of them will result in 80-99% results. The only thing that'll get you a 99% close rate is a roofie. Let the guys here guide you and you'll do fine.

Not sure how I missed this thread, that's a hilarious comment, and completely unexpected coming from you, that's terrible P

But, after reading through the thread a bit, I'd assume the poster is either trolling, or is the rare Omega type of guy.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Sptsmed - 04-09-2012 7:10 AM

I have had amazing results with Wingman X, I usually spray around four to six sprays right on my Johnson and then walk around with it hanging out in all its glory and approach women for day game. I use a few sets then once they get a look at the monster and smell the wingman radiating from it, its on. If that approach does not work, you might want to try the wingman on you nauticals and apply some of that BenGayEtrione to your member, Don't go conservative with it, just slather it on there good and things will heat up pretty damned fast with that route for sure.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - as33156 - 04-09-2012 7:43 AM

(04-05-2012 3:51 PM)jaytop21 Wrote:  Hi im new, live in uk, age 19, and am south asian looking for girls between 18-25

in my area there are not a lot of hot girls and a hell of a lot of hot girls have boyfriends and there is so much competition with other men

i wanted to know which pheromones i should pick for my approach

i like to approach women during the day in malls, streets and stores

when i approach during the day I would say something like ' excuse me, I find u are very (any of these words, attractive, beautiful, pretty, ect) and I think that you and I should share each others company in the next 2 to 3 weeks'

As u can see this is very hit and miss ( well more miss then hit). it forces women to reciprocate my interest or reject my interest (well more reject) on the spot

i want to do my approach and then get the number and then set up a date and then finish the deal in a park, car, toilet because i live at home with my parents lol

please tell me if there is a pheromone that will help me get laid with 80% to 99% of the hot girls i approach

also will the pheromone make women approach me during the day

thanks please reply

Hi Jaytop21,

I dont know if you read my journal but my LAY rate was only 30% max dude and I still had the time of my life. Even with my rate being what it was I could still have sex with a different woman everyday because I get out there and didn't use the boom or bust technic you are using.


HOW I WORK

With my pheromone combos, limited pua skills, and subliminals.

1. chat with 10 to 20 ladies a day.

2. get numbers from 3 to 6 of the women

3. A 3rd of those women flake.

4. Another 3rd i set up dates with.

5. The last 3rd were down for fun and i had sex with them that day.

You keep doing this and you will build up a nice residual cache of pleasure. This is what I have done. Now I have to many ladies to handle. Which is a good problem to have.

This forum will really take you to that next level.

Kind Regards,

As3


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Sptsmed - 04-09-2012 7:56 AM

You have been given great advice by many, just have to read and take the knowledge and use it. There is no magic bullet that is going to make women drop their panties for you, nor one that will make them run to you and initiate the sexual discussions. Pheromones will ease the bumps in the road, they might make you a bit more attractive, they can help open conversations, help keep them going to a degree, help her to open up and talk more and slightly decrease the rejection rate, but in the end, the key is you and how you come across.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - kentdave - 04-09-2012 8:36 AM

(04-09-2012 7:43 AM)as33156 Wrote:  Hi Jaytop21,

I dont know if you read my journal but my LAY rate was only 30% max dude and I still had the time of my life. Even with my rate being what it was I could still have sex with a different woman everyday because I get out there and didn't use the boom or bust technic you are using.


HOW I WORK

With my pheromone combos, limited pua skills, and subliminals.

1. chat with 10 to 20 ladies a day.

2. get numbers from 3 to 6 of the women

3. A 3rd of those women flake.

4. Another 3rd i set up dates with.

5. The last 3rd were down for fun and i had sex with them that day.

You keep doing this and you will build up a nice residual cache of pleasure. This is what I have done. Now I have to many ladies to handle. Which is a good problem to have.

This forum will really take you to that next level.

Kind Regards,

As3

thanks for laying it out this way. reading the journals give you the illusion that everyone is sleeping with every girl they want, but the reality is far from that. but when you're at 0%, anything >0% is So happy


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Wanghan - 08-06-2012 4:43 AM

I'll put in a vote for New Pheromone Additive. Great product for direct game.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - FUNNER - 08-06-2012 7:56 AM

"i want to do my approach and then get the number and then set up a date and then finish the deal in a park, car, toilet because i live at home with my parents lol "

Holy crap - I can't believe I missed this !!!!!

Can I still nominate this for post of the month ?

Awesome Jaytop - please write more !!!


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - Hurakan - 08-06-2012 7:04 PM

Beware of AS3 Journal as I liken it to the 50 shades of grey all the women are buttered up reading, but for men lol.


RE: please help me decide which pheromones to get because i am confused Thanks - as33156 - 08-06-2012 7:21 PM

(08-06-2012 7:04 PM)Hurakan Wrote:  Beware of AS3 Journal as I liken it to the 50 shades of grey all the women are buttered up reading, but for men lol.

lol I do make most of the women im with sign non disclosure agreements. Most are like WTF is this but they still sign