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(01-09-2012 10:08 AM)dbot Wrote:  Needs to be tested at much lower concentration.

(01-09-2012 10:21 AM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  True... I'll dilute it down to 1 mcg / drop and see what happens ;)

Sounds like the same discussion we were having at the PEA thread, about it needing to be tested at really small doses, maybe nanograms.


Paracelsus, sometimes called the father of toxicology, wrote:

German: Alle Ding' sind Gift, und nichts ohn' Gift; allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding kein Gift ist.

English: "All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; only the dose permits something not to be poisonous."

Or, more commonly
"The dose makes the poison."

That is to say, substances considered toxic are harmless in small doses, and conversely an ordinarily harmless substance can be deadly if over-consumed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracelsus#Contributions_to_toxicology

If you guys still have this, i would like to try it out, appears that this Androstadione has the ability to speed up fertility, which in females may mean yhe shortening of their menstrual cycles, so this may be fun to experiment with. If we ciuld find out what speeds it up and slows it down, essentially we could make their ovulation cycles longer and keep them in an arousable state for longer while shortening their menses cycles and possible PMS duration. This would be like one giant leap for mankind lol, which would also help women as well too.

(07-10-2015 1:33 AM)pherosloth Wrote:  If you guys still have this, i would like to try it out, appears that this Androstadione has the ability to speed up fertility, which in females may mean yhe shortening of their menstrual cycles, so this may be fun to experiment with. If we ciuld find out what speeds it up and slows it down, essentially we could make their ovulation cycles longer and keep them in an arousable state for longer while shortening their menses cycles and possible PMS duration. This would be like one giant leap for mankind lol, which would also help women as well too.

This is a three year old thread. The OP has been banned and there is no one on this thread who actively posts on this forum anymore.

You can buy Androstadienone from LAL or Pheromone XS though.

(07-10-2015 10:26 AM)Paradox Wrote:  You can buy Androstadienone from LAL or Pheromone XS though.

This isn't Androstadienone , but rather, another substance structurally-related to Androstadienone . This particular version isn't obtainable anywhere, as far as I'm aware. It could be interesting reviving some of these older tests, though - if there's one thing this community could use, it's a more extensive testing of novel, named molecules.

(07-10-2015 3:05 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  This isn't Androstadienone , but rather, another substance structurally-related to Androstadienone . This particular version isn't obtainable anywhere, as far as I'm aware. It could be interesting reviving some of these older tests, though - if there's one thing this community could use, it's a more extensive testing of novel, named molecules.

And that's one reason i feel i was lead to this site and pheromones in the furst place. I noticed that although we do have people testing pheromones and reporting on them, i feel it is time to dig up these old novel molecules and begin testing them, as well as some that were suggested but never given the chance. I know thi may be something some people wouldn't be privy to doing, but for those of us who are pheromone scientists this may be a chance to break out with some old molecules for testing as well as a way for us new cats to bring in some new ideas for brainstorm.

Hey Ek, remember when i said i was here to change the way we view and use pheromones? Well i wasn't kidding

(07-10-2015 4:56 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  And that's one reason i feel i was lead to this site and pheromones in the furst place. I noticed that although we do have people testing pheromones and reporting on them, i feel it is time to dig up these old novel molecules and begin testing them, as well as some that were suggested but never given the chance. I know thi may be something some people wouldn't be privy to doing, but for those of us who are pheromone scientists this may be a chance to break out with some old molecules for testing as well as a way for us new cats to bring in some new ideas for brainstorm.

Hey Ek, remember when i said i was here to change the way we view and use pheromones? Well i wasn't kidding

It was Chris of Alpha Dream who led the way for this type of testing in the first place. Unless Mark were to allow him back into the community by some miracle, I see no way to obtain and report on these and similar molecules.

(07-10-2015 6:24 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  It was Chris of Alpha Dream who led the way for this type of testing in the first place. Unless Mark were to allow him back into the community by some miracle, I see no way to obtain and report on these and similar molecules.

We may then have to make a new forum and find some way to get this going. Not that i want to make a new forum, but it may be the only way to get some new stuff going. To me grudges should be broken if we are to advance past the current stage in pheromones, or forever be stuck to the same old methods.

(07-10-2015 7:22 PM)pherosloth Wrote:  We may then have to make a new forum and find some way to get this going. Not that i want to make a new forum, but it may be the only way to get some new stuff going. To me grudges should be broken if we are to advance past the current stage in pheromones, or forever be stuck to the same old methods.

There's enough forums out there already, if you ask me. Better to mend up the old ones instead of moving on. I've seen what happened to Pago's forum - there's hardly anyone active on there nowadays. PheroTruth is the best place for this sort of testing to occur.

(07-10-2015 8:53 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  There's enough forums out there already, if you ask me. Better to mend up the old ones instead of moving on. I've seen what happened to Pago's forum - there's hardly anyone active on there nowadays. PheroTruth is the best place for this sort of testing to occur.

Had i known about pago's forum, I'd be looking at his info and also be posting on it.