(12-28-2012 12:30 PM)dsouza Wrote:  I can sense both products working but I feel Is AMMo is more tame and Glace Am is more like mones on roids.

Also congruency is a big factor.. over here on Pherotruth so many successful people share their stories and lay reports you can't help but believe in the products. Then its easier to be more congruent because you know its working for others. Guys here cheer each other on and provide a sense of comradery.

I find with Glace AM I am much more relaxed once it hits my sweet spot and for a shy guy like me it gets women talking and they actually miss me when I have to go.. i can see it in their eyes when I ask them personal questions, the girls eyes light up as if they can't believe I'm so sweet.. With IS AMMO its just talk. With Glace AM its bonding.. I know there are other products at AD for bonding so I can't rule them out either.

Finally there's something in Glace AM that makes me act like a man, whereas with IS AMMO I feel timid almost with it on. It's as if Glace AM is a 300 hp engine and IS AMMO is a 120 hp engine.

Anyone care to elaborate more? I see some people here like Androtics products line and they sure hit success with their summer ammo and p75 product line this year.

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I think glace and AM limit negative self thought and is just allowing the real YOU to shine through. 30% mones 70% you.

(12-28-2012 12:38 PM)as33156 Wrote:  I think glace and AM limit negative self thought and is just allowing the real YOU to shine through. 30% mones 70% you.

Limit negative self thought.. now there is an insightful comment friend. I think its the glace doing this not the AM.. What do you think? When I wore Glace Am after working out first I was in a pissy mood for 2 hours then I applied some more glace and voila mood lift for the entire night. That mood lift allowed me to tackle on the world.. i felt invincible. There's no feeling like that when it hits. It doesn't matter what I say , so much that I say something and mean it and say it with proper tone of voice. This raw shit makes me feel like a superhero I tell you.

Do you find you still get self effects from glace am after all these years? If so what is your secret to keep getting them?

I find part of my secret is to only wear mones 2 x week so I don't adapt. Have any tips for me friend?

(12-27-2012 8:20 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Or, for anyone lucky enough to still have any MX292 that got killer results with 2 - 4 sprays, try 6 to 8 sprays once it became a hit and tell me it didn't work as well as the original release!

Yup, I'm still one of those lucky ones.

Batch 100andsomething gave me 0 results
Batch 2 gave me 1 result somewhere on it's last 4 sprays.
Batch 8 gave me 0 results

I have 1 more togo bottle of this saved in my Androtics stash. Not sure what batch it is, but I'm not hoping for anything great really, as it's probably watered down or missing some key ingredients. Maybe I'll try that one at 6-8 sprays as you say and see if it works, but I'm highly sceptical.

(12-28-2012 12:54 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Limit negative self thought.. now there is an insightful comment friend. I think its the glace doing this not the AM.. What do you think? When I wore Glace Am after working out first I was in a pissy mood for 2 hours then I applied some more glace and voila mood lift for the entire night. That mood lift allowed me to tackle on the world.. i felt invincible. There's no feeling like that when it hits. It doesn't matter what I say , so much that I say something and mean it and say it with proper tone of voice. This raw shit makes me feel like a superhero I tell you.

Do you find you still get self effects from glace am after all these years? If so what is your secret to keep getting them?

I find part of my secret is to only wear mones 2 x week so I don't adapt. Have any tips for me friend?

Hi dsouza,

The only self effects I seem get are from Androstadienone & Wolf. Sometimes if I put on a lot of glacé I will get an evil grin effect.

I don't get why they stop making their most potent experimental mixes available. Makes no biz sense whatsoever.
I don't like their policy and the way they run things but some of their most potent mixes are the best ones ever in mones existence bar none.

(12-27-2012 11:04 PM)wiserd Wrote:  http://www.wingmanpheromones.com/wingman...ries-oils/

I've gotten some results with their a314, oil base. One drop was enough. It's a nice formula. It's just wildly overpriced and the company was hard to work with... changed mixes, used cover scents that set off people's allergies and made me sick (they smelled nice, but...) and wouldn't let me get unscented so I could mix my own without charging an arm and a leg.

Alpha Dream products aren't just better for a wider range of people, the company has more integrity. Knowledge of what's in a mix is a big portion of understanding how something will work without two weeks of testing, and it's something androtics is categorically opposed to.
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SOmething I like better about alpha dream is that they have like 3-4 main products for men that all do something different and for different environments.

Androtics makes things complicated , they recommend you use x mix on date 1, y mix on date 2 and really turn up the complexity to the point where you are overthinking things.

Keeping things simple with mone products is really where you see the best results.

(12-30-2012 7:42 PM)dsouza Wrote:  SOmething I like better about alpha dream is that they have like 3-4 main products for men that all do something different and for different environments.

Androtics makes things complicated , they recommend you use x mix on date 1, y mix on date 2 and really turn up the complexity to the point where you are overthinking things.

Keeping things simple with mone products is really where you see the best results.

I don't mind complexity per se. What I hate is proprietary complexity. I don't mind learning a complex programming language. Or studying how complex systems in the body interact. But I hate learning a complex user interface for a single product which not only changes constantly and is expensive, but locks me into that product forever.

Even consistent proprietary complexity one can live with. But inconsistent proprietary complexity accompanied by non-stop manipulation in communications - this I find unrewarding.