(04-13-2012 11:03 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Not quite true!

With 30ML bottles, and Instant Jerk being 2.5mcg's per spray and Instant Openness and Instant Honesty being 15mcg's per spay, they are closer to:

Instant Jerk - 1.66% Alpha Androstenol and 98.34% alcohol and whatever happens to be in it.

Instant Openness and Instant Honesty = 10% Alpha Androstenol and 90% alcohol and whatever else happens to be in it.

From reading this thread and other posts it seems like there was a period of time where AD was having a hard time with quality control. I don't know if this is true or not but I'm worried about my investment in Instant Jerk.

I cannot smell Androstenone so I can't verify if it is in my bottles.

Bottle #1 Instant Jerk: Purchased May 2009 - this was great. It hit like crazy. I used up almost the entire bottle but when there was a little left I spiked it with Essence of Woman . I think I still have this it is almost empty.

Bottle #2 Instant Jerk: Purchased Feb 2010 - I vaguely recall that I didn't see hits like bottle #1 but I don't remember for sure. But I didn't test it enough to be sure so this really means nothing.

Bottle #3 Instant Jerk: Purchased June 2010 - I have not tried this bottle yet. I was just stocking up.

Bottle #4 Instant Jerk: Purchased Aug 2010 - I have not tried this bottle yet. I was just stocking up.

Was AD's stuff good in 2010 or was that the period of time when they were having quality control issues?

Can I be confident in these bottles of Instant Jerk I purchased in Feb through Aug of 2010?

(07-27-2015 5:10 PM)metaltree Wrote:  From reading this thread and other posts it seems like there was a period of time where AD was having a hard time with quality control. I don't know if this is true or not but I'm worried about my investment in Instant Jerk.

I cannot smell Androstenone so I can't verify if it is in my bottles.

Bottle #1 Instant Jerk: Purchased May 2009 - this was great. It hit like crazy. I used up almost the entire bottle but when there was a little left I spiked it with Essence of Woman . I think I still have this it is almost empty.

Bottle #2 Instant Jerk: Purchased Feb 2010 - I vaguely recall that I didn't see hits like bottle #1 but I don't remember for sure. But I didn't test it enough to be sure so this really means nothing.

Bottle #3 Instant Jerk: Purchased June 2010 - I have not tried this bottle yet. I was just stocking up.

Bottle #4 Instant Jerk: Purchased Aug 2010 - I have not tried this bottle yet. I was just stocking up.

Was AD's stuff good in 2010 or was that the period of time when they were having quality control issues?

Can I be confident in these bottles of Instant Jerk I purchased in Feb through Aug of 2010?

QC issues were worst throughout 2012, though I believe there was a period in 2011 where this was an issue as well. You should be fine.

i use some androtics stuff and it does work. unfortunately i don't have a whole lot of stuff to compare right now but ammo 2x has gotten me hits BOTH times i've used it! no, women were not dropping their panties upon smelling ammo but there were other IOIs... so in my opinion ammo does work, whether or not it's overpriced is another story.

(08-12-2015 11:57 PM)nonbeliever Wrote:  i use some androtics stuff and it does work. unfortunately i don't have a whole lot of stuff to compare right now but ammo 2x has gotten me hits BOTH times i've used it! no, women were not dropping their panties upon smelling ammo but there were other IOIs... so in my opinion ammo does work, whether or not it's overpriced is another story.

Aw come on? Women weren't dropping their panties? You should return it.

jk ;)

I have been over there for 5 years things have gotten shady. I remover reporting how awesome Steve's ICM 2.0 was. They flipped there shit I told them sorry, the product actually works for me. I have been looking for a product like that since.

(02-23-2016 11:06 AM)smellymen2002 Wrote:  I have been over there for 5 years things have gotten shady. I remover reporting how awesome Steve's ICM 2.0 was. They flipped there shit I told them sorry, the product actually works for me. I have been looking for a product like that since.

Good to see you here buddy. I havent tried any other brands yet. But definitely keep in touch.

I just found my old bottle of rev 23... sadly I only see 2 drops in there which prolly will not come out

(04-03-2016 9:48 AM)heey85 Wrote:  I just found my old bottle of rev 23... sadly I only see 2 drops in there which prolly will not come out

I know what to do with it exactly...
ready...?
Send it to John PTreas, Garry or SteveO and ask them to analyse it and create exact something.
You might become star for the whole community.

Ok ok , or just put half teaspoon of rubbing alcohol in it and shake the bottle. Then fill it in an empty sample spray bottle, and use.

(12-02-2011 2:33 PM)as33156 Wrote:  I think he is insinuating true pheromones owner as the guy. Which only has won True Pheromones a Customer for life in me. HAHAHA

So the Canadian True pheromone guy 'stole' the formulae? Which literally means, stole the actual files or papers and left Androtics with nothing? Or just copied?

(06-22-2017 11:53 PM)Kalzon Wrote:  I know what to do with it exactly...
ready...?
Send it to John PTreas, Garry or SteveO and ask them to analyse it and create exact something.
You might become star for the whole community.

That actually sounds like a pretty good idea. I'm surprised someone hasn't done that before.