I keep hearing WM/b compared to A314 which is a pretty tall order. I'm gonna give it a few solo runs at work to see how it compares. I really like A314 but my personality may be too serious to wear it everyday. WM/b may be my new daily wear.

I have the old AM and I'll get the new version on order soon. I can't wait to give it a run!

I thought these two products were head-to-head competitors but it looks like each has its own niche. Now I can justify owning both!

Thanks for sorting them out JH!

(06-16-2011 8:01 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  I keep hearing WM/b compared to A314 which is a pretty tall order. I'm gonna give it a few solo runs at work to see how it compares. I really like A314 but my personality may be too serious to wear it everyday. WM/b may be my new daily wear.

I have the old AM and I'll get the new version on order soon. I can't wait to give it a run!

I thought these two products were head-to-head competitors but it looks like each has its own niche. Now I can justify own both.

Thanks for sorting them out JH!

Jaycee ... Chris announced that he´s gonna send out the new version of Alfa Maschio for free upon request ( by email ) for free ... but only if you have the old version..

Pago

(06-16-2011 8:10 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Jaycee ... Chris announced that he´s gonna send out the new version of Alfa Maschio for free upon request ( by email ) for free ...

Foiled by the ... ...again! I got really excited there for a moment and then I got past the ...

I plan on getting some Alpha Dream products soon

Ive been wearing AM to test out the scents. I have to agree that these are 2 different beasts. WB is more approchable and has attraction, who is that guy effect. So far it seems like you must approach while wearing AM. It seems overtly sexual. Caveman-esque. It hits hard, fast and is very aggresive. But please keep in mind that I have only tried AM 3 times and I am still trying to get a full grasp on it. They seem very different at this point.

Oh, and from what I understand....the WM BL that is now being sold is different from the WM BL that we tested. So the results with the new stuff could be very different. Its a shame actually. The WM BL that was sent out for testing has been one of the most consistant products I have ever used.

Hopefully if the new versions aren't better Brad will take your feedback into consideration.

But yeah, 4 of the 5 members that got the free bottles reprted fantastic results on the original versions.

Then again, you only change something tht's successful if you think you can make it even more so. I'm looking forard to seeing what you all have to say about the Element series.

(06-16-2011 8:55 PM)JesseJester Wrote:  Oh, and from what I understand....the WM BL that is now being sold is different from the WM BL that we tested. So the results with the new stuff could be very different. Its a shame actually. The WM BL that was sent out for testing has been one of the most consistant products I have ever used.

I emailed the company and told them that I had great results with the WM BL and asked them if the same exact product was going to be offered on the new line. Their response was:

Hello and thank you for your interest in Wingman Black Label. I'm happy you've had great results. To answer your question, the same exact product is not available on the Wingman Element site. The Element 9+O is almost identical, but has more Estratetraenol and a slightly different scent (both citrus based). I hope this helps.

Im a bit dissappointed. I would buy a lot of what I tested, but I am quite hesitant to buy the untested 9+O. Not only that, but according to the site 9+O now has copulins in it which was not icluded in the email response on what was added to BL. In my experience, the addition of COPS to ANY formula, identical or not, changes the entire dynamic of a mix. I guess only time and testing will tell.

I emailed the company back and asked if they will still be offering the original BL through the Wingman Edge site.

Jesse- What kind of changes do you usually expect in a mix when cops are added?

(06-17-2011 11:03 AM)dbot Wrote:  Jesse- What kind of changes do you usually expect in a mix when cops are added?

Well, it all depends how much is added. COPS to me are a double edged sword. A smaller amount can be beneficial because it can raise your testosterone levels spiking labido, making you a bit more aggressive, and putting you more on the radar when it comes to ovulating woman. Moderate and high amounts can signal pre-selection and the freshly fucked vibe. In my experience this can narrow the women you get hits from. Yes, its good to have pre-selection but not all women want the guy who has traces of another woman on them. Some sense that you are the player type or are weiry that you may be unavailable and trolling for some strange. Personally, I dont want every woman to perceive me as someone who is currently having sex with another woman.

So to answer your question, I think the addition of COPS, depending on the amount added, can narrow your targets. Women who would may be interested in you may no longer feel that way if they sense that there is another woman present in your life.

I just ordered AM, but I'm holding off on WM until I hear from others who used WM/b and WM/edge.

(06-18-2011 2:24 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  I just ordered AM, but I'm holding off on WM until I hear from others who used WM/b and WM/edge.

My double order of WE 9 was shipped on 15 June and i am going to wait and see if it all ships well, and if yes then i am going to order some WE 7 , my WE 9 should arrive here downunder around June 28 therefore it will be awhile before i can post anything regarding my Wingman Element experiences.