Looking forward to your report!

(06-20-2015 1:48 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  Looking forward to your report!

Yeah same here can't wait for it to get here!! I ordered this unscented. Me and some friends got together and decided to pitch in on a couple of bottles of Creed and split it. So were gonna get Green Irish Tweed, Aventus, and Imperial Millesime. It's gonna
arrive around the same time my AT/GOA will arrive.

Some of my friends don't use phero's but are big into luxury fragrances say that they get alot of results from just fragrances. I've been the complete opposite where i've been just using high quality phero's usually with just the cover that it comes with.
I read on the forums here that a good quality fragrance will help diffuse the phero's better. I can't wait to try luxury fragrance + Pheromones.

(06-20-2015 3:34 PM)seekingnirvana Wrote:  I read on the forums here that a good quality fragrance will help diffuse the phero's better. I can't wait to try luxury fragrance + Pheromones.

it's just not fair sometimes

(06-20-2015 3:34 PM)seekingnirvana Wrote:  ...
I read on the forums here that a good quality fragrance will help diffuse the phero's better. I can't wait to try luxury fragrance + Pheromones.

I used to think that way too until I stopped covering most mone apps and spraying cologne either near or away from the app points. Hits got better.

What I believe is happening is that mones further enhance the fragrant signature that's being put out via a primal modus operandi, not fragrances diffusing mones better.

Try it! Exceptions include N.P.A and cops, where cover is a must when out and about.

(06-20-2015 7:28 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  I used to think that way too until I stopped covering most mone apps and spraying cologne either near or away from the app points. Hits got better.

What I believe is happening is that mones further enhance the fragrant signature that's being put out via a primal modus operandi, not fragrances diffusing mones better.

Try it! Exceptions include N.P.A and cops, where cover is a must when out and about.

No, both ways are correct - the mones, assuming the signature is agreeable already, will enhance the way the fragrance is perceived, but the fragrance most definitely helps with diffusion. Don't believe me? Try using Black Aoud or some other projection monster below literally any mix - instant hits, guaranteed!

For me, hits are much better when using a fragrance underneath the mix. It's key, however, to make sure you're spraying the fragrance first, then the mix over top of it - the other way around will just ruin the mix.

(06-22-2015 6:17 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  No, both ways are correct - the mones, assuming the signature is agreeable already, will enhance the way the fragrance is perceived, but the fragrance most definitely helps with diffusion. Don't believe me? Try using Black Aoud or some other projection monster below literally any mix - instant hits, guaranteed!
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The only way a fragrance could enhance diffusion is if it increases the rate of evaporation of the mone itself. The explanation of how fragrance molecules "help to pull out mone molecules to a much further distance" just doesn't seem to make sense.

This is why I stated earlier that the mones help enhance the signature of the fragrance itself.

(06-22-2015 6:54 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  The only way a fragrance could enhance diffusion is if it increases the rate of evaporation of the mone itself. The explanation of how fragrance molecules "help to pull out mone molecules to a much further distance" just doesn't seem to make sense.

This is why I stated earlier that the mones help enhance the signature of the fragrance itself.

I'm speaking from personal experience here. The fragrance acts as a "carrier" for the mones, helping them diffuse a further distance. Try using one of Apex's products and you'll see just how far you can take this concept (I've had hits from up to 30 feet away with CORE.)

I've experienced the opposite - when I don't cover (most) mones with cologne, I get better hits than when I do. And I've been covering mones with cologne from 2009-2014. It was only this year that I started applying frags away from mones and saw better hits. Including with Apex mones CORE and TITAN.

This is why the old thinking of covering to increase projection now doesn't make sense for me any longer. Exceptions include N.P.A and anything with cops, which must be covered with cologne simply because of the overwhelming smell.

(06-22-2015 7:37 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  I've experienced the opposite - when I don't cover (most) mones with cologne, I get better hits than when I do. And I've been covering mones with cologne from 2009-2014. It was only this year that I started applying frags away from mones and saw better hits. Including with Apex mones CORE and TITAN.

This is why the old thinking of covering to increase projection now doesn't make sense for me any longer. Exceptions include N.P.A and anything with cops, which must be covered with cologne simply because of the overwhelming smell.

And you're spraying the cover scent *below* the mix, yes?

(06-22-2015 7:56 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  And you're spraying the cover scent *below* the mix, yes?

Nope. Away from. Completely separate app points.

For example, mone apps on neck and inner forearms, cologne/bodyspray on torso and underarms.