From Thundr:
"11 OXO is 11-keto-androstenetrione also called 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione, and is an androgen isolated from the adrenal cortex. (also called andrenosterone) It lowers cortisol levels." Another source I founded refer to it also as 17beta-hydroxy-4-androsten-3,17-dione. From what I understand, our body produce Traces amount in cells.

I don't know long it will last but here is the link for those interested.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008WFRXN2/ref=...SC_3p_dp_1

Is this androstenetrione or a molecule similar to it?

I have a 1mg/1ml solution of this stuff in PA along with a few other molecules that I've gotten my hands on. While I can't say that I did officially try this, smelling this out of the bottle made me feel good. It is also called Adrenosterone. Kmacc, check your ppal in a few hours.

(09-06-2012 8:00 PM)Thoth Wrote:  Is this androstenetrione or a molecule similar to it?

Not androstenetrione,
Apparently somebody already has it in application form as a spray.

http://www.prototypenutrition.com/11-KT-Spray-p/11.htm

Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ste...reviations

seems quite useful as fitness supp

anyone have info on the pheromone effects?

(09-06-2012 8:33 PM)Thoth Wrote:  seems quite useful as fitness supp

anyone have info on the pheromone effects?

One thing that I’ve learned the last couple of days in my research was. Most or all of the Pheromome that we are using are steroids. I believe, a lot of Putative Pheromones from AD were steroids and was coded for that very reason.

I've got a bottle coming, should be here in a couple days. I might be convinced to giving up a couple of pill to the some hard core tester.

If this could be like androstenetrione (visual beautyfing effects etc) without the negative side effects I would be more then willing to try it

Just got some 11 oxo from Smart Powder today. It's alittle cheaper than the one from Amazon.

https://www.smartpowders.com/p-5350-11-l...grams.aspx

I buy most of my nootropics from smartpowders. They're a good company to deal with.

Anyone with a bad case of Androstadienone depression should try 11 oxo? I don't suffer from Androstadienone depression so that mades me a bad candidate. At 30 mcg a feeling of well being almost Euphoria take hold. This seem like a very good counter with no impact to Apha, more testing needed.