(02-11-2017 11:23 AM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  IMO girls find copulins more attractive on a man than Androstadienone . It seems to screw things up for me. Androstadienone makes it seem like it's their right to have me (boring), while cops makes it a competition (fun) to have me.

Cops and NA (nude alpha from liquid alchemy labs). I did Cops+NA+Tusc a few times and a lady I've been dating had a greater sense of excitement. Desireme oil from PXS is the cops I have and it works. Cheaper and higher concentration IIRC.

I would reccomend staying away from traditional alpha products for scoring with most women because people don't expect to meet someone with such an alpha signature, give them so much respect and so on. Unless you're courting a doctor, lawyer, rock star, singer, actress, model etc., I'd stay away from regular alpha products for dating. Nude alpha has status, but it is not as high as the lowest alpha product.

I agree. Alphas for dating can be too intimidating and raise your status too high to the point where many girls will give up - unless you can manage to make them feel validated and worthy of your presence. I used to be an alpha daily wear but I'm finding more and more than a proper steered social works much better. NA is great too. I only have a sample vial though.

What countries are you guys located? I am currently in australia, studying software engineering. On my final year. I am scared of using couplings as it makes you look like a player, but I don't think I fit the description of a player.

Anyone used Xist and androstadienone combo before?

(02-11-2017 7:11 PM)BrownFish Wrote:  What countries are you guys located? I am currently in australia, studying software engineering. On my final year. I am scared of using couplings as it makes you look like a player, but I don't think I fit the description of a player.

Anyone used Xist and androstadienone combo before?

I'm in Los Angeles. I think using copulins will make you fit the description of a player. Don't be afraid of using them when you're single of with FWBs. Don't use them in relationships.

(02-11-2017 7:27 PM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  I'm in Los Angeles. I think using copulins will make you fit the description of a player. Don't be afraid of using them when you're single of with FWBs. Don't use them in relationships.

Thank you very much for your response!

So to summarize, Androstadiene is more for like romantic stuff; like mxing it with xist etc. and couplins to appear like a player, correct?

Now I don't go out much, or I don't go out to clubs or pussyhunting. Would a mix like couplins and NA fit me? For example there is this girl, straightly platonic since she's got a boyfriend, and I never hit on her. We will be doing group projects together. I was wondering what effect would mones have on this dynamic? I am not depserate or in the friendzone or pining at all. Just curious. Or like last time I had a catch up with my mentor we had 2 hours long chat talkign about life which suggested she enjoyed our convos. Of course she's married and has kids etc. But I'm curious if I can use mones to seduce her etc.

(02-11-2017 7:33 PM)BrownFish Wrote:  Thank you very much for your response!

So to summarize, Androstadiene is more for like romantic stuff; like mxing it with xist etc. and couplins to appear like a player, correct?

Now I don't go out much, or I don't go out to clubs or pussyhunting. Would a mix like couplins and NA fit me? For example there is this girl, straightly platonic since she's got a boyfriend, and I never hit on her. We will be doing group projects together. I was wondering what effect would mones have on this dynamic? I am not depserate or in the friendzone or pining at all. Just curious. Or like last time I had a catch up with my mentor we had 2 hours long chat talkign about life which suggested she enjoyed our convos. Of course she's married and has kids etc. But I'm curious if I can use mones to seduce her etc.

I have NA and I have used it over the past several weeks alone and with Androstadienone . More often than not, I am getting more reponses from the NA+Androstadienone combo than NA alone. I have had spontaneous compliments from my wife of 12 years e.g., "I am looking at you [while she's blinking her eyes] and I gotta say that you are one handsome man!" This already happened twice during the last couple of weeks of my testing. It goes without saying that it has STRONG imprinting abilities...so long as you smile and actually do 'positive' thoughtful things or pleasant surprises for the target that will serve to imprint a long lasting positive/romantic memory. Funny as I have noticed that it has also affected the girls/ladies at my kid's school. One has particularly become so enamored that she goes out of her way to help me i.e., do unsolicited favors, opening doors for me.
Dosage: 1- 2 drops NA, with 30 - 50 mcg Androstadienone ; during day - 1 drop NA while night 2 drops.

I have also a copulin formula, namely Dirty Primitive. I have used this only sporadically and usually by itself, except once with Wolf (sample) and this provided very weird humorous results at a supermarket...driving a middle aged woman cashier into a frenzy of sudden conversation with compliments towards me while she turned beet red and she kept shifting in her chair. Before the cashier, I simply asked a middle aged male worker in the market aisle whether they had a certain brand of spring water. The guy went into extreme respect mode and went ABOVE THE CALL OF NORMAL DUTY by apologizing intensely for the lack of that brand after which I thanked him, yet he kept following me around trying to continue the conversation and 'crossing his heart that he won't lie' about a certain brand. I felt that this guy wouldn't shut up and I wondered whether he would leave me alone! This whole experiment was impromptu and on the whim one night. I plan to test DP more in other settings e.g., night setting where women are out in their packs on the prowl in nightclub/discotech. Since it is cops and -none, I feel that you have to watch that you do not overload the -none. If you put on NA (since it is a milder 'alpha'), you might overload the -none and thus, intimidate rather than attract. You might get ghosted. I am curious as to what kind of buffers have been used in NA as LAL keep their formulas secret. If I were to use an NA+DP, then I would use way less DP...maybe the smallest of dabs..not even one drop.. would be sufficient and also just 1 DROP of NA.

On another note, I am awaiting some goodies from PXS this week. Besides the famous ACE bundle, I am awaiting Taboo and Xist. I am eager to try Xist as this one supposedly has some serious imprinting capabilities. It is also reputed to be the only product that can help the wearer escape the friendzone. So, I am thinking that you may wish to give Xist from PXS a go if you want to reposition yourself in the mind of the woman that you describe of being a lover rather than a safe male 'friend' therapist. I am curious as to whether giving minor mementos/presents smeared with some pheromones like XIST or NA/Androstadienone might help further imprint her with a new 'image' in her mind of you.

I understand from reading the boards that most people have some dilemma in mixing Androstadienone and cops. Supposedly the former is romantic/prince charming while the latter screams 'player.' Okay...however, there are some formulas out there that contain both. Moreover, some products have a small sprinkling so as to give a 'social proofing' aspect to the wearer's signature...I am thinking of Ascend with cops. On these boards, the Ascend Cohesion Evolve combo was tauted as a winning combo. If using Ascend with cops and Cohesion which contains Androstadienone , why wouldn't cops and Androstadienone not work??? Moreover, one prominent member (I think AS33156) says in an old post that he used Dirty Primitive along with Androstadienone to great effect. Here is a link:

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-1-Dab-of-Di...Y-GOOD-SEX

Good Luck! Let us know what happens.

Thank you very much for your response as well! very very helpful man! So yes I think I'm sold on DP. I think for my first buy of mones the list is as follows:

Androstadienone
DP
NA
Xist

That should give me about a comprehensive start don't you guys think? thanks again for your help. I still have a bit of time before I make my order.