I've been on the fence about buying this single and nearly did a couple weeks back but I have some concerns that I was sharing in my journal. I thought myself and others could benefit from those of you with a much better understanding of it than what I currently have.

I know that most use it in blends to help with the lady folk so my situation is a bit different, lol. I know the ladies say it soothes them and some even say it helps them sleep. I'm sold for getting it for me, but here's where I need help - from my journal:

(12-27-2012 11:34 AM)NuTrix Wrote:  Androstedienone is sighted to cause depression in men? Would my use adversely effect hubby? He actually responds well to Love Potion B2 but I try not to wear it often around him because I've read that. I'm thinking I would be using it sporadically enough to do him no harm, but I was looking at it in 20mcg per drop. Have you noticed if it ever seemed to effect your SO negatively?

My husband does get down sometimes. He's a meat head - I mean that in a good way, lol - and he's into weight lifting and fitness and has biceps that are almost the size of my head! But he still gets weird about his body image sometimes...which is just CRAZY I think. This would be my biggest hang up. I would hate to think I would boost those down moods in any way.

I'm also wondering, in low enough doses, would it help him sleep because he suffers from insomnia most nights.

How depressive can androstedienone be and does it have to be in high doses to cause that effect?

If it was just me, I would have gotten it already but I don't want to mess up hubs for something I don't need. Androstedienone is a "nice to have" because I don't normally stress about much of anything and I don't suffer from PMS rage/emotional meltdowns (to hubby's delight) so it's not like I need it.

All suggestions and feedback are GREATLY appreciated!

It's a crap shoot. It has been said that about 25% of men get the depressive side effects.

(12-27-2012 1:03 PM)halo0073 Wrote:  It's a crap shoot. It has been said that about 25% of men get the depressive side effects.

So the stuff I've read about the depression doesn't even effect all guys?!? He could TOTALLY be in the other 75%! That's actually REALLY encouraging!

Does the helping to sleep only work for us or do you know of any guys who use it for that also? This could be a win/win!

Ive used it to fall asleep. Especially when youre not used to it. It can really knock you on your ass.

I did like 150 mcg onetime and huffed it. Got loopy spacey and swore i was having an acid flashback.

Now i dont think that amount will phase me.

The depression people talk about is over exagerated or over emphasized. Tiredness and helplessness due to being overwhelmed by tiredness is what i think most people say is depression. I noticed more pronounced tiredness with lovescent Androstadienone . Androstadienone in general seems to have an effect on men. Id start low around your hubby to work up his tolerance.

Lol i remember taking a break from it and i gave a friend a heavy Androstadienone mix to wear. I couldnt figure out why i was losing my train of thought and why i was feeling so tired. Then i asked him. Youre wearing my mix arent you.

Yup. Lol.

I think it's best to go with some from LAL or AD because the one from Love scents is 40mcg per drop which can be overkill for a ladies person use. Not to mention the effect that high of a dosage could have on your husband if he is apart of the 25%

Now I know you want a single molecule, but you should seriously try Steve's Cohesion mix which is mainly A-1, and according to many users actually it is actually preferred over the single molecule and works with mixes just like the single molecule does. And oh yeah no depression from Cohesion either! ;D, just my opinion, cheers!

Thanks everyone! Really!

paradigm - how difficult did you find it to shake of that tired feeling? Did it help you to go to sleep and then wake up rested or was it like with some sleep aids that leave you groggy and it takes a bit to clear your head? (150mcg! That sounds like A LOT!)

as3 - I was looking at purchasing 20mcg per drop from LAL. Do you think that may still be too high? They have lower doses.

ryusei - I do have 3 androstedienone heavy blends from Love Potion: B2, Balm Bomb & Teddy BB but they are blends, not just androstedienone. Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.

Oh! Is this a stinky mone? I'm told that it's applied directly under the nose for this purpose. It won't change anything about me purchasing it if it is, just gathering info.

Thanks again everyone

First time i od on Androstadienone i ran into a girl i had talked to a week before. The difference was night and day. Before i was talkative funny and animated. Androstadienone od was like crashing tiredness. It lasted a good half hour and sleep sounded like a great idea

Did it at work and realized i needed fresh air. Just a feeling of drowsiness. That went away when i went outside.

The 150 mcg... I did crash but not for too long. I passed out while looking at the pretty colors.

I know when it hits my male coworkers. Lovescent had them rubbing their eyes and yawning a lot. Ive been using cohesion for about a year and i dont see thise effects but this is the Androstadienone chris sells. Same manufacturer and higher purity.
Cohesion also has dhea and a touch of none.

P86 knocked me on my ass as well first time i used it. I dont recall being groggy when waking up. I used to use some mones to fall asleep with. They helped me relax.
A lot of mones seem to have a sedative effect and Androstadienone has done the same for me at times.

I find that i am more prone to motion sickness if i wear mones and i havent eaten. Eating usually clears that up.

I get no depressive affect from Cohesion.
I don't have dienone as a single.

John <--- meat head prone to depressive episodes

I don't wanna look like a StevO but I'm all about value.

So much so that I'm going to start pushing for concentrated versions of formulas that the end user can mix into their own carrier.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-My-stream-o...1#pid72031

20mcg perdrop from LAL is perfect! I have that and regularly get effects from just one drop.