My bottle of Androstenetrione supplements arrived from House of Muscle today! It's sold in 500mg capsules as an aromatase inhibitor (to prevent testosterone from being converted into estrogen).

Two caps went straight into my measuring vial along with 10mL of fractionated coconut oil, and I'll allow it to continue brewing for another day or two. In the meantime I figured I'd round up any information we might have laying around about this new mystery molecule. Thing is, there's only been one reference to it in the history of this forum

Here it is, from SteveO's keyboard to your wide eyes:

Quote:One chemical I have been researching is androstenetrione which I do believe to be P86.

That's enough to make it worth testing, as Steve certainly knows a thing or two, and P86 is a highly regarded putative. Here's the entry for P86 from PheroQuirk's Mix Guide spreadsheet.

Quote:talk show host; blender. A314+P93+p86 would be quite
interesting... charismatic... (tacitus)

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P86 is known for its beautifying effects. When you wear it, the people around you look more attractive and the wearer seems to appear more attractive to the people around him or her. This effect has been noticed by many observers. I believe I was the first to call attention to this effect. Wildflower calls P86 the crush pheromone. P86 definitely has more sensual and attractant qualities than just the "Shallow Hal" or "Instant Airbrush" effect.


Sedation as an unwanted P86 effect

One of the problems with P86 is that many people find it has a sedating quality on themselves and sometimes people around them. Not everybody experiences this. I definitely do. But it's worth it. I just drink a double latte before using P86 . This, however, is no solution insofar as P86 affects people around the wearer.

In a bedroom setting, where P86 enhances intimacy, I have not found the "sedating" effect to be a problem. P86 creates a relaxing effect which is totally appropriate for lounging around the bedroom with one's lover. I have not found the effects of P86 to strongly encourage sleep, just relaxation. It definitely depresses any sense of vigilance. If one wishes to transition to or from dinner or a club, the sedating effect of P86 is a problem, "Quick, waiter, a strong cup of coffee, before my date decides I'm feeble minded!"
"- Warren

As the effects of this putative have been rather pronounced, it should become clear relatively quickly whether Androstenetrione is our winner.