Seriously, the company that was in everybody's top 5 list for so many years, is no more. There are multiple veterans that received bad bottles from him. And Paradox is even banned for leaking out the information. Even I have been trying to contact him for months. Sent 20 emails. No reply. I was going to buy from him. But I decided, no more. I would rather give my hard earned money to someone who has the etiquette of good customer service. Now that his great product M3X is down, I suspect what has happened with his other top products like Core, Titan, Imprint.

The problem with us newbies is that if a product does not work for us, we wont report here. Because we would feel that given so many reviews from so many people, maybe (or statistically speaking) it is something wrong with us that we are not getting results. We dont possess the mental acuity to decide whether the product formula has been silently changed without informing its customers. For that we had to use multiple bottles in the first place. But we are newbies. We leave that task to veterans. And we believe them when they say a product is good or bad. We believe them when they say which product has which kind of effects. I have already experienced enough fraud. I dont want to take any more chance.

Same happened with top pheromones like A314, L2K and multiple top products. Why do these vendors not learn from history? Why do they want to silently change an already existing great formula? Why do they want to shut people who speak up?

I'm just curious, were you looking for an answer to your questions? It seems as though you were being rhetorical.

(03-29-2019 9:58 AM)Snoopyace Wrote:  I'm just curious, were you looking for an answer to your questions? It seems as though you were being rhetorical.

Ha ha ha. Quite funny indeed. Yeah, those questions are there to make it seem theatrical, kind of like reverberation effect.

(03-29-2019 10:35 AM)maheshbh2 Wrote:  Ha ha ha. Quite funny indeed. Yeah, those questions are there to make it seem theatrical, kind of like reverberation effect.

Ah, okay well then have fun conversing with yourself.

I've always got answered to me. I don't get it. Delayed sometimes yes, but answered for sure.

(03-29-2019 9:27 AM)maheshbh2 Wrote:  Seriously, the company that was in everybody's top 5 list for so many years, is no more.

This is the 2nd thread that you have attacked Apex in. Apex is still a great company and Thundr is a pheromone genus. He has contributed a lot to this community over the years.

(03-29-2019 4:08 PM)metaltree Wrote:  This is the 2nd thread that you have attacked Apex in. Apex is still a great company and Thundr is a pheromone genus. He has contributed a lot to this community over the years.

Amen. Was going to rep you but I need to spread the love first.

Actually, I think I'm going to go with M3X to go out with my bride tonight. Fury scented.

(03-29-2019 9:27 AM)maheshbh2 Wrote:  The problem with us newbies is that if a product does not work for us, we wont report here.

Not entirely true, a lot of newbies don't bother to report even if a product works well for them.

As for M3X, I personally have no reason to believe it has gone down as you claim. I have seen it do whatever it was advertised to do, though not exactly in the kind of situations it was designed for. But that's because of me. thundr has clearly mentioned that it is most effective with women who already have "high interest levels". People have used it successfully for f closing their first dates, and now they criticize the formula for not being able to do what the vendor never claimed in the first place? I don't get it.

Newbie who has never tried any Apex products makes a thread criticizing Apex products. Sounds legit.

Destroying your reputation on the forum in under 20 posts..........impressive.

(03-29-2019 5:34 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Newbie who has never tried any Apex products makes a thread criticizing Apex products. Sounds legit.

Destroying your reputation on the forum in under 20 posts..........impressive.