(06-02-2016 11:13 PM)kalpan56 Wrote:  Lol!!

thinking about the situation where every man is wearing some kind of pheromone in a bar. It would be so much fun. Only girls need to worry about it.

This is not going to happen in my country soon.

My only concern is the price. I hope increase demand doesn't increase the price of my favorite mones.

I did wonder what would happen if pheromones became as mainstream as the fragrance market. It's highly unlikely but lets say it did then you would all be back to square 1 and your pre pheromone days where it's only your game that matters.

Right? If everybody had pheremones..would it be like nobody having pheremones? Funny to think about.

(06-02-2016 11:13 PM)kalpan56 Wrote:  My only concern is the price. I hope increase demand doesn't increase the price of my favorite mones.

Unless we're talking about some extremely scarce components, I see increased demand serving only to bring prices down.

(06-03-2016 12:18 AM)jjmoons Wrote:  I did wonder what would happen if pheromones became as mainstream as the fragrance market. It's highly unlikely but lets say it did then you would all be back to square 1 and your pre pheromone days where it's only your game that matters.

Well it's been 20 years since I started using mones and the market is still not mainstream.. I cannot see it becoming mainstream unless some MASS marketing, TV commercials,Government intervention etc make it catch on..There have already been episodes on TV featuring mones etc but people just don't believe in it..

You know what even my SO doesn't believe in mones.. She just says I believe it in and that why I make things happen....She does believe in self effects because she notices radical changes in me but she doesn't believe they do anything else to her lol!

But I see the differences in her behavior she doesn't pick up.. Subtle differences.

To this day I can tell you I can talk to a lot of strangers and if I ever tried to bring up the topic of pheromones they'd be like ""What is that?". That is how ignorant most of society is on the subject..

I agree which is why i said unlikely.
That being said, here are some factors to consider. I am a Biochemist but I've been out of the game for a while as I work in finance and marketing now.

If I put my scientist hat on I would say that synthetic pheromones are in their earliest stage of product research.Pencillin was discovered in 1928 but wasn't first adninistered until 1941 and it's widespread use even later.

If i put my sales and marketing hat on I would say these products are in their earliest stages of their product life cycle, Introduction and growth. This is the stage of product discovery where non-believers become believers. And this can happen at different rates, in this case slowly because of the skeptics. In fact there are plenty of thriving industries that were once riddled with skeptics! If you were able to look at the rate of growth of this market for the past 20 years ( customer aquisition and number of new companies entering the market) you can estimate when and if this market will reach maturity and what it's potential may be.

And if this was to ever happen then even more companies would enter this market which could drive costs lower while some of the original companies like AD and LAL will either be bought out by big pharmas /cosmetics or they will go public making their founders and possibly even some of this forum's financially savvy members very wealthy.

But it will be at a cost as the widespread pheromone use will dilute the market and efficiency of products rendering them virtually useless and pushing this industry into the decline phase of it's life cycle unless further innovation or alternatives are created.

OR ALTERNATIVELY...

nothing will happen and you'll still be here in 20 years from now discussing mixes and new products.

As you can probably tell I'm very bored and had time on my hands!

IMHO mone users are viewed by the mainstream public and press to be either a bunch of gullible loonies conned into buying snake oil, or seedy predators with no morals trying to brainwash their victims. I don't believe that it will ever become mainstream for those reasons. Which I am very pleased about! I'd hate to be in a place hitting on a chica competing with a dozen other guys wearing BW or Evolve. I appreciate the edge which mones give me and the more unique my signature is the better.

Steering the thread back on course ....
Here in Spain I don't believe that I have ever encountered another mone user, and it is doubtful that I will. (Out of 18 million adult males, I could only imagine there is about 500 serious users at tops).

I also concur with Eks, many males have extraordinary high test levels /and / or strong natural pheromone producing glands. I remember back in the early 80's seeing particular ugly guys with the personalities of dried dog turds, always with hot women drooling over them, and guys avoiding them.

(06-03-2016 6:32 AM)LoveInSpain Wrote:  . I remember back in the early 80's seeing particular ugly guys with the personalities of dried dog turds.

they musta been wearing civet... lol

you could only ask him, are you one from us ??? hahaha, tell me whats your pseudo-name on PT??

On the other hand, a couple of weeks ago, I met a girl, with really moderate beauty, maybe 5-6, a bit chubby and despite the fact so f***ing magnetic and irresistible that I thought it has to be artificial :-)

I had shivers talking to her, just couldn't take my eyes off her...

Maybe women are discovering mones more and more too.

I agree with Kalpan here.
Even if the mones market goes mainstream in our country I don't think the vast majority can afford to buy a 10 ml bottle of liquid for 30 $ plus shipping.
I think maybe 1 or 2 percentage of the population will buy it. That too if it is mass advertised and sold everywhere.