(04-23-2016 11:15 PM)RussianWolf Wrote:  I've never gotten the dark vibe from AV that so many members have reported.



It's not a dark vibe, it's a celebrity status vibe.

Agreed. Never ever understood this. I'm guessing some "vet. described it as dark and syringe just kept repeating it.

I do find it a little hit or miss but never dark.

Haven't done a lot of experimentation in this area because A314Rev32 just handles it. So for Alpha with Status, I would pick that. That said, my bottle is from 2011, so that clearly isn't 2015-2016.

For status alone with Alpha overtones, I've used AV roll on lemon scent and coupled with copulins from T-150 and a small swipe of nude, it seems to do the trick in social settings. This is not something I would dare try in the work place.

Suspect that age, appearance and natural phero signature will influence this alot. I'm sorry but a 20 year old with A314Rev32 would be so in-congruent to me, it wouldn't fly.

Anecdotally I had the funniest moment at work about a year ago. I had been wearing social-mones (mix of nol dominant gel) to break the ice while promoting a major corporate activity.

This assignment wasn't my choice, and I was put in the limelight by the heads of the region.

This really upset the rest of the pack. Being new, I had no idea there were some many middle pack dogs that wanted that position.

Anyhow, I won almost everyone over but a few of these douche bags who kept gyrating for attention and throwing off challenges in meetings and slinging shite behind my back.

So I am sitting thinking how do I shut these guys down once and for all? The bell went off and I realized a little unnatural power might due.

So one day, I think maybe I've been to friendly - maybe those early nols were a mistake and green lighted these losers to take pot shots.

I break out the precious A314r32 and BOOM! The hammer drops. Crushed em. If ever there was proof that these things worked beyond a mating call, that meeting was it.

It was glorious. I wish I could go into detail. Just suffice it to say, the spotlight was bright on the incompetent, they were flushed from the shadows for what they were.

Only one is left as the other wannabes fell to the 4 winds.

I suspect I've got about 30 drops left, not sure what I'll do when that ends. Captain sounds good. Titan too. Tried Atlas (single spray) and I would put it in range but not in tops. Thankfully i use only maybe 4-6 drops a year.

PS - couple A314r32 with a betablocker (aka Inderal) for a major presentation: Cool As Ice Major Shutdown. Wanna feel like Prince Nelson Rogers: A314r32, cops, and a beta blocker.

Indeed, A314 really shines for shutting down rivals. Kane + P106 is a good substitute for this, though I wouldn't use Kane solo at work anymore.

I can't agree with Rev.32 not being congruent based on age alone. I've had no trouble pulling it off at 20 years old in over 2 years use. Personality and body language are far more important than age when it comes to congruency.

I still haven't found something that comes close to A314 for me, so I had to develop it myself. If thundr can come up with an alpha mix without using -nols in more than trace amounts (preferably 1.25mcg or less), that might hold me over in the meantime. For now, Kane is in my sights. I do have a decent supply of P106. However, using it every day is impractical given the poor longevity of Androtics' putatives. I'm working on a few ways around this.

(04-24-2016 10:50 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I can't agree with Rev.32 not being congruent based on age alone. I've had no trouble pulling it off at 20 years old in over 2 years use. Personality and body language are far more important than age when it comes to congruency.

I still haven't found something that comes close to A314 for me, so I had to develop it myself. If thundr can come up with an alpha mix without using -nols in more than trace amounts (preferably 1.25mcg or less), that might hold me over in the meantime. For now, Kane is in my sights. I do have a decent supply of P106. However, using it every day is impractical given the poor longevity of Androtics' putatives. I'm working on a few ways around this.

What's the rational behind the Alpha Androstenol in an alpha-status product, Eks?
Do you think it is necessary or can it be left out of such blends entirely?

Old "wisdom" over at AnDr-forum was that -Alpha Androstenol kills/flattens fallout, for those that are not aware of that, even alongside A314 and in small amounts as in Ammo. (2,5mcg and upwards).

Did you discover any unique characteristics in trace-amounts of Alpha Androstenol in an alpha blend or is it just for naturalization-effects, it's a naturally occuring mone in males after all.

(04-24-2016 1:25 PM)GoergeFocky Wrote:  What's the rational behind the Alpha Androstenol in an alpha-status product, Eks?
Do you think it is necessary or can it be left out of such blends entirely?

Old "wisdom" over at AnDr-forum was that -Alpha Androstenol kills/flattens fallout, for those that are not aware of that, even alongside A314 and in small amounts as in Ammo. (2,5mcg and upwards).

Did you discover any unique characteristics in trace-amounts of Alpha Androstenol in an alpha blend or is it just for naturalization-effects, it's a naturally occuring mone in males after all.

I see no reason to include Alpha -nol in an alpha blend in any amount. The best route would be to scrap it entirely. For reasons beyond me, almost every major status blend on the market includes Alpha -nol in some amount.

What's this I'm hearing? A314rev32 being sold right now isn't revision 32 of a couple of years back? I have 3 togos of a314b rev32 purchased about a year or two ago and I find myself extremely congruent with it.

^Guess you missed a314 royale drama.

(04-24-2016 8:33 AM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  Haven't done a lot of experimentation in this area because A314Rev32 just handles it. So for Alpha with Status, I would pick that. That said, my bottle is from 2011, so that clearly isn't 2015-2016.

@ JB 20: Didn't miss the Royale drama just the line above from Jimmy's message that got me thinking wtf? Isn't rev 32 , rev 32 regardless of whether its 2011 or 2015-2016??

(04-25-2016 1:31 PM)dsouza Wrote:  @ JB 20: Didn't miss the Royale drama just the line above from Jimmy's message that got me thinking wtf? Isn't rev 32 , rev 32 regardless of whether its 2011 or 2015-2016??

Hmm... assumed it was the same formula. So maybe I've got no worries then? I'll just get another Rev32 - didn't really look closely at all that Royale etc just assumed they were on a different formula.

So with that said, R32 2011 is my "business alpha" mone and Wolf is my business "good guy" mone. If 2016 A314 is the same, then you know where my vote goes.