Having since read this thread I want to add another.. TITAN.... I am confident, smooth talking, and speak with conviction with it on.

If AV is the seductive charmer talking, Titan is the powerful ruler leading a squadron.

Honestly if AV didn't give me rashes or a crash I'd choose it over titan.

But titan does neither give me rashes or crash... Its alpha effects are very natural and believable. However, because it has cops sometimes I get very angry depending who I'm around.

AV is more Johnny Depp Seducing with wit, Titan a powerful business or militant leader giving out orders with conviction.

P 97 @20-40 mcg

I was new to this forum when this thread started but now I'm comfortable adding my vote for Titan.

I feel i'm just on point when I'm wearing Titan during the day dealing with clients. My clients are typically in a position of power so it's not like I have lil old Mrs Jones hanging on my every word. And just like it says on the Apex site Titan seems to deliver on the attraction side after a few hours. I've noticed hard hits at a decent distance. I do crash on Titan though but that's not until 8 hours after application.

To avoid misfire I push down on the sprayer gently so it's more of a spritz than a spray. One spritz on each side of my upper neck by my ear.