(04-14-2020 11:25 AM)lck13po Wrote:  If I understood what I was doing with mones better I would know what to use to help in this situation.

My best advice on choosing pheromones is to first think about what goal you desire to achieve and what effects you feel are lacking on you without the pheromones. After that go to the vendors section here and visit the webpages of each vendor and read their descriptions (some sites a clunky, some are very polished) and write down the names of the products that appeal to you. After that, go back here and read the members reports on each of the products; paying special attention to both the reports of others that it seems like their personalities align with yours as well as the reports of the guys that seem to be the opposite of you. the ones that seem similar to you will give you an idea of what you might hope to expect, and the ones diametrically opposed to your personality will give you a great idea of suitability, as you will not get the same effects (or any at all) of what they report.

For each thing that meets your goals or seems to align with you tick a plus sign by the product that you're reading about and, in the end, the ones that seem to align the best with both your personality and goals are the ones to try. Doing it this way will also give you some good insight on how to steer the pheromones (most of them require a bit of steering to be effective...i.e. change your outer self to match the pheromone signature being projected).

That's one of the two ways I choose new pheromones to try (although I probably default to TLG about 80% of the time).

What one does with them is a learning process that begins with discovering which products align with you the best and then figuring out how to leverage the enhancements they give you. Regretfully, this process takes time to master, usually far longer than we think (if I am any example). While the learning curve becomes much less steep with cumulative mastery over more individual products, there's a good reason why the advice for new pheromone members stresses that one should learn and understand solo first (product by product) and then and only then start mixing.

I've worn 'mones around my 6-year-old and 3-year-old daily since they were born, without any noticeable negative effect.

(04-15-2020 9:12 AM)RTBoss Wrote:  I've worn 'mones around my 6-year-old and 3-year-old daily since they were born, without any noticeable negative effect.

Thanks Boss,

My kids are 7 and 5. I wasn't sure whether they would cause issues so I chose to err on the side of caution.

Just to give you guys an update. The mones aren't working on my wife but I don't think the issue is the mones. The issue is either me or the wife. Things went great for over three weeks then she started a fight with me after she told me a local public project was having funding setbacks. I had made a comment about two reasons one of those projects would fail and she started chewing me out about me thinking I know everything about everything and how I didn't know anything. Then she proceeded to tell me the project was having issues over the exact same things that I said would cause the funding issues. I told her she just agreed with me yet told me I didn't know what I was talking about. Then she accused me of not taking responsibility for anything and I asked her what I did wrong that I need to take responsibility for.

After that she told me I would never change and refused to acknowledge the work I had been doing on myself and told me I haven't done anything on this list she made me of what she needed in a relationship while she was having her affair. I pulled the list out and showed her that I had done over fifteen of the things on that list(there are twenty-five). She started telling me I was doing them in the wrong order. I had given her a list of my needs as well which she hasn't even looked or even tried to do any of them.

The company she works for closed temporarily due to COVID so they moved her to a restaurant that is tied to her company to expedite to go orders during the outbreak. She goes in there and works until closing then hangs out in the bar with her co-workers after they close(that is what she claims anyway). I told her she was putting our family at risk because none of her co-workers wear masks and she doesn't know if any of them may be sick. Her response was they aren't a risk and masks only protect other's from you not you from Covid. But a few days before I went to the store for some smokes and she told me I was putting our family at risk going to the store for a carton of smokes. I wear a mask when I do have to leave the house which is rare these days.

Now she is on this kick where she is trying to talk me into letting her have my new place when we split up every other week so the kids don't have to go between houses. IShe hinted about me being on the mortgage at her new place so she could afford a more expensive place. I told her no and she started yelling at me about how I want to have my own things instead of sharing them with her. I'm just scratching my head now because she seems to be losing it.

She has always been pretty irrational but now she is taking it to a whole new level. I've already told her I'm done and acting like it.

If this is true: Ewwwwwwwww! And, "NO" needs to be the answer to her every request not having to do with the kid/s.

Having a nice place is attractive to other men and women. NO!
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And you are stuck with this until it is safe to move about the country!

Hang in there!

(05-03-2020 2:49 AM)MMM Wrote:  If this is true: Ewwwwwwwww! And, "NO" needs to be the answer to her every request not having to do with the kid/s.

Having a nice place is attractive to other men and women. NO!
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And you are stuck with this until it is safe to move about the country!

Hang in there!

I wish this was a lie but it's not. There are better women out there.

Look into this book " The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work: A Practical Guide from the Country's Foremost Relationship Expert"

Dr John Gottman has a 90% accuracy to determine if a marriage will end up in divorce from his 20+ year research. It's not a book about the signs of why marriages are failing but provides good principles what will keep the marriage alive.

(05-03-2020 9:19 AM)Thor Wrote:  Look into this book " The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work: A Practical Guide from the Country's Foremost Relationship Expert"

Dr John Gottman has a 90% accuracy to determine if a marriage will end up in divorce from his 20+ year research. It's not a book about the signs of why marriages are failing but provides good principles what will keep the marriage alive.

Thanks Thor,

I'll check it out.