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Post: #61
RE: Chris banned and lost posts
10-06-2013 6:34 AM

Guests cannot see Alpha Dream review section.

How can anything stay the same, when everything must change?
Adaptation through innovation
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RE: Chris banned and lost posts
10-06-2013 8:32 AM

Chris needs too shut his mouth, mind his own business and quit being such a biznitch.
If he spent more time creating new mones and wouldn't be such a flake his products would be doing very well. Instead he has great mones but everyone has them already. I would love it if he came out with new mones like other new vendors that are constantly innovating and progressing mones versus letting it stagnate.
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10-06-2013 11:14 AM

(10-05-2013 10:09 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  4. I feel like repeatedly punishing Chris is not going to help anything. It's just peeing up wind. I'm sure by now he has realized that he has made a mistake and broken some close bonds that we share in this small phero world.

Instead of attacking the competition , why not just learn from them. Listen to your customers.

I completely agree. Chris racked up more warnings and caused more trouble than ALL other members combined and was given chance after chance, only to turn around and screw up again within a couple of months. Even in this instance he was given the opportunity to fix his screw up, but I think he realized that the only way he could really fix it would have made himself look bad, so instead he he chose to take a stand and try to make himself out to be a martyr.


(10-06-2013 6:34 AM)lefer58 Wrote:  Guests cannot see Alpha Dream review section.

That's true. Chris threatened and then followed through with sending a mass email to everyone that had ever bought from him and mentioned pherotruth, inviting them to leave pherotruth and join him on idon'tknow's forum. That email went out to 6,380 people!

After he sent that email I limited access to his forum to registered members, to at least somewhat try to limit his ability to cause damage or try to lure people away from the forum in the future.

Nobody changes until the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change....

A guilty conscience can be more cruel a judge than any court of law. In the end its not how many toys we had, and all that we ever were are the impressions we left on those we leave behind, so live your life as you'd want to be remembered when you're gone!
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10-07-2013 4:41 PM

I haven't hit the forums in a long time and I see that Chris got banned and had to wonder 'what the fuck happened?' Damn dude, this is crazy, I actually found the guy likable and okay but you can't trash another vendor. On top of that he called out another member blaming him for not being able to offer single molecules anymore.

I'm not mad at Chris or anyone, I'm just disappointed with all the back stabbing.

The Dude abides...
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10-07-2013 6:04 PM

I do not think it would be acceptable for any vendor, now or in future, to suggest that the products of other vendors are unsafe or toxic if the purpose of that is unfair commercial marketing. It would be acceptable to post an abstract about claims that some molecules are linked to depression in men for example. You can criticize the chemical as opposed to the company or the product. It would not be acceptable to say "Acme spray from Atlas Pheromones is toxic trash, so you should only buy my stuff instead." I'm not saying he said that exactly, but it sure as hell sounded like it to me. The policy should be applied consistently. Repeat offenders after warning should be subject to ban. I did read a review of A D at the "other forum" from an experienced user. It seemed objective. Not all that flattering. Not too flattering at all. But hey, that's free speech. Chris has not had his speech stifled. He abused it. It's a free country. Chris can always build a Joomla site or something and add a forum plugin. But that takes time and money. Time to hit the white hat SEO hard and start selling product and building cash flow. That's how you build a business the honest way. Steve has is own forum. I don't hear him bad mouthing other vendors, including his former boss.
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10-08-2013 9:03 AM

So, Chris noticed that the Alpha Dream Product Reviews wasn't viewable to guests and sent me an email this weekend offering to pay me a fairly substantial amount of money if I would make the Alpha Dream Product Reviews forum viewable to the public for 1 year. I wrote back saying that I wan't interested in his money, but would make the forum permanantly viewable to everyone if he would agree to and abide by 3 conditions:

1. You agree in writing to never again attempt to lure visitors or members away from pherotruth, or do anything to cause harm.

2. You agree not to attempt to discredit, harm or call into question the integrity of any of your competitors or the pheromone industry in general, to any customer or prospective customer that may have come from pherotruth.

3. You contact Share A Sale and restore my reputation and admit that your accusations were false, and make payment for monies owed.

Chris has agreed to these conditions and the Alpha Dream Product Reviews forum will be made viewable to all as soon as I can verify that he's fulfilled his Share A Sale obligation.

Nobody changes until the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change....

A guilty conscience can be more cruel a judge than any court of law. In the end its not how many toys we had, and all that we ever were are the impressions we left on those we leave behind, so live your life as you'd want to be remembered when you're gone!
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Post: #67
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10-08-2013 10:50 AM

Mark, you are the patron saint of second, third, fourth.... ad infinitum chances.
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Post: #68
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10-08-2013 11:33 AM

So is Chris going to be returning to the forum?
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Post: #69
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10-08-2013 11:53 AM

No. the Alpha Dream forums will be made viewable to everyone. Chris will not be returning.

Nobody changes until the pain of staying the same becomes greater than the pain of change....

A guilty conscience can be more cruel a judge than any court of law. In the end its not how many toys we had, and all that we ever were are the impressions we left on those we leave behind, so live your life as you'd want to be remembered when you're gone!
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