Wondering if some of the Jedi's with good approach game could give a few tips for unique conversation topics when approaching in a club/bar scene? I don't have any problems waking up and saying hi, but I suck balls at getting a good conversation going.

To me, the one liners that many PUA's recommend seem like the most transparent bullshit that any half intelligent chic would see straight through.... Maybe I'm looking it all wrong though? Also starters like "how's your night going?", "having a good night?" and the likes seem like things a girl gets asked 50 times and are just more of the same.

Would be great to get a few openers that others have honed to perfection....

Here are 2 that have almost always worked for me:

1. Wait till she is NOT smiling, then walk up to her and say "You know I bet that if you tried REALLY hard you could smile." That will almost always get a smile, then say "Much better, hi, I'm (insert name) whats your name?" When she tells you smile then say "try to keep that on" and WALK AWAY!

2. Walk up to her and say "You wouldn't mind if I told you that you're gorgeous would you?" she will almost always say no, then you say "Great, you really are gorgeous." She will probably then either say thank you or what's your name. Either way, say I'm (insert name) what's yours? Then after she tells you her name say something like "I just couldn't resist telling you that" and WALK AWAY.

You're probably thinking I'm crazy for saying to walk away after opening her, right? Well, here's why: You can bet she's heard it before and put her bitch shield on high alert the moment you walked up and opened your mouth. In complimenting her then walking away her bitch shield drops and she's a little confused and intrigued. That opens the door to going back to her 15 or 20 minutes later and picking up where you left off, without her putting back up the bitch shield.

Those lines have probably worked 90% of the time for me, and are the one's I used to meet both of my ex wives and most girls that I've dated.

(11-26-2014 7:37 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Here are 2 that have almost always worked for me:

Those lines have probably worked 90% of the time for me, and are the one's I used to meet both of my ex wives and most girls that I've dated.

Ahhh very cool.... I'll definitely give this a shot next weekend and see how it goes... I know exactly what you mean about the bitch shield, nice!

I like to ask their opinion about something.

Example:
Chilling with a buddy at a bar, there's a hot girl just by us (alone or with friends), I'll turn to her/them and say something along the lines of:
"Hey girls, quick one, just need your opinion on something me and my friend were just debating"

Then add a story on to get their opinion on, anything you'd imagine on a gossip column or a "ask amy" type column would be perfect. Additionally, the story should subtly show you have value.

Sometimes I use: "my ex bought me this really expensive rare book that I've wanted for ages (I'm so intelligent, i like rare books) and asked to meet up for dinner. I know she wants to get back together, but I don't. I feel obliged to go because the gift is so damn expensive. My mate thinks I should just not respond, but that's fucking cold hearted (I'm a sensitive guy)! What do you think I should do?" etc etc

Works coz it makes girls focus on the story and giving advice, drops that bitch shield and engages them in an interesting conversation, whilst at the same time you can subtly show your value.