(06-17-2012 2:05 PM)DGamer Wrote:  I admit that the first thing that came to my mind is my wallet, and I did not consider the possible effects. However, once I'm aware of said effects, I did try and make things right.

Quite clearly I've already gotten the message and am trying to do the right thing. You mind toning down the aggression?

I think you're mostly a great that tries to help the community, but we're all human here, we make mistakes and I do feel you're just a bit too quick to lash out at people for their mistakes (including at Chris).

Why do i have the feeling that you did not get it ?

Why do i wonder why i do not read a sorry from your side and instead of this you´re attacking me personally !

You need as33156 to tell you on how to should have done in your orig - post ..

He told you exactly how you should have done before and there is nothing wrong with exchanging an M512 oil for an X22 oil with an other member ..

just to give you an example !

selling stuff you´ve bought no problem at all ..

And do not mix up things you have no insight in ... !!!

You know that you did not act correct ..

You said you had your wallet on your mind ..

You said you did not think about possible negative side effects ..

You see what others think about selling refunded stuff as well ..

Have you ever thought about where this community comes from and maybe you´re actions could affect something that others have done a lot for ..

What would it be like if you let it be a good evening now and think about my words if you want to !!

Pago

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Why do i have the feeling that you did not get it ?

If I do not get it, then why would I have retracted the option to sell the mones?

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Why do i wonder why i do not read a sorry from your side and instead of this you´re attacking me personally !

You're partially right, I do owe a sorry to everyone. I'm sorry to the whole community (yes including you Pago).
"I think you're mostly a great that tries to help the community, but we're all human here, we make mistakes and I do feel you're just a bit too quick to lash out at people for their mistakes (including at Chris)."
The mostly refers to everything except the part where you're lashing out on people. Tries might've been misinterpreted, you DO help the community. I think right now I'm trying to make things right, and just because I'm trying to do so does not mean I have failed or have not done that job. As for the lashing out portion, I am not retracting that. I want to fix things yet you still seemed insistent on berating me. You pissed off Chris too, and just like my improper actions, that has consequences. I'm not holding it against you as once again, we all make mistakes. I don't mean this as a personal attack, but I am pointing out it would be nice if you'd stop being so quick to lash out at people. I think you definitely went too far with Chris, and you're being a bit mean with me.

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  You need as33156 to tell you on how to should have done in your orig - post ..

He told you exactly how you should have done before and there is nothing wrong with exchanging an M512 oil for an X22 oil with an other member ..

Probably, but he wasn't on at the time. I actually ran my post by people in the shoutbox and they didn't point out the wrongs of selling bonuses.

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  just to give you an example !

selling stuff you´ve bought no problem at all ..

Of course, I'll sell stuff I've bought and trade/giveaway bonuses.

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  And do not mix up things you have no insight in ... !!!

Not completely sure what you're referring to on this one, the Chris incident?

(06-17-2012 3:00 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  You know that you did not act correct ..

You said you had your wallet on your mind ..

You said you did not think about possible negative side effects ..

You see what others think about selling refunded stuff as well ..

Have you ever thought about where this community comes from and maybe you´re actions could affect something that others have done a lot for ..

What would it be like if you let it be a good evening now and think about my words if you want to !!

Pago

At first I didn't realize my mistake, but now I have " thought about where this community comes from and maybe you´re actions could affect something that others have done a lot for .." I know I've made a mistake and won't do it again, don't rub it in.

I think this whole thing is a big misunderstanding, DG genuinely wasn't aware of what he could and could not do in regards to these pheromones he has. We'd discussed in the shoutbox a few nights ago that he wanted to get a refund from True, who offer's a 365 day return policy, but he has to send it to Canada and custom's will not ship it because he doesn't have a clearance to ship it out of country.

This means that True may have a return policy that they do not have to honor if you live outside of Canada. Either that, or maybe there's another way for DG to ship it back to them?

I also do not think it was DG's intent to make much money off of these. He wasn't asking for a lot for them. Some of us saw this thread, but didn't say anything and were also unaware or didn't remember what was and was not a bonus.

Lastly, it is rare that one seeks to sell a few of their products, usually it's the P's that are traded back and forth. Perhaps an appropriate policy could be made to serve as a guideline to prevent future incidents like this from occuring when it comes to selling part of a collection on the forum? But DG and others on the forum, who have read this thread, now have an idea of what would be in such a policy.


Oh, and AV was the very first product DG ordered, he didn't see much with it. At the time we tried to help out a bit, he eventually sent it back. I did suggest he ask for a sample of it with his OD to try it again, I think he would be experienced enough now to know what to look for.

A lot of time people do things without really thinking, or considering how it may impact others, I now I do.

It's how we react and what we do when our shortcomings or nearsightedness is pointed out or we realize them that define who we are.

Dgamer didn't really think about how at may have made a vendor to see him giving away stuff that they sent him out of the goodness of their hearts or how they might react if it started becoming commonplace, but once it was pointed out to him as best as I can tell he made an immediate retraction and offered something that I'm sure any vendor would appreciate.

I'm willing to bet that virtually everybody here has thought "Sweet", "Awesome", or "What a nice thing to do" when they've opened a package to find freebies with their orders, but how many of you have done anything more than to post about it in the forum, if you even did that?

Now, how about I make a suggestion to everyone? Next time you order something and the vendor sends out freebies in the package, how about taking 2 minutes to sit down and send them an email telling them how much you appreciate it?

Failing to show gratitude and appreciation are missed opportunities to put a smile in someones heart!

i am glad that the little stormy patch has passed over while i can understand that DG did post up his pheromone sales with somewhat of an innocent intention it was still fitting and proper that Pago did comment in the way that he did as is his devotion to duty as an admin, i also would have made a comment had i been astute enough to have noticed the facts as Pago did and i realise that Pago would have acted the same way to anyone including myself had they done the same.

Anyway we are all friends here and there has been no harm done now that everything has been patched up and we all now have a much clearer understanding of our responsibilities with regard to our personal sales of products cheers guys and a big hug to you all from this great grandfather he he

Not to be confrontational here, I thought the first post was appropriate, but I didn't like the posts afterward. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but the posts afterward felt like an aggressive beating of a dead horse

Uh, DGamer that was confrontational and now you're the one beating a dead horse! You already had the last word and Pago clearly saw it because he thanked my post, which was posted over an hour after you already said your peace and he did not continue the discussion so he apparantly let it go.

Now you've got to get another last word in? IT STOPS NOW! Keep the pissing match going and I'll issue you a warning and lock the thread! GOT IT?

Yes Mark. Sorry Pago for beating the dead horse

Ha Ha Ha!




I must say that I see the point of not screwing our favorite pheromone distributors.
But I don't see DGamers attempt to trade/sell way back in April as something that rose to the "ABUSE" level.
5 bottles of used mones
2 new bottles

Then again, maybe it was more aggravating before he edited his post.
I vote "Go easy on DGamer" and "Go easy on dexter, I'm sure I'll mess up soon and need it."

Quote:
DG's LIQUIDATION OF MONES
06-15-2012 11:27 PM

Alpha Dreams:
Trade - 2/3 Bottle of Glace Fastburn Silicon

Hax Pheroceuticals:
Trade - 2/3 Bottle of Wingman Element 9+O
Trade - Wingman Black Label (only used for 4 days)
Trade - Wingman M512 (new)

True Pheromones:
$15 - True Love (only used for 3 days)
$15 - True Alpha (only used for 2 days)
$15 - True Instinct (new)
$35 - For all 3 and you don't pay shipping

I'll ship out in 1-2 days. Only shipping within the U.S., you pay $6 shipping.

(06-21-2012 7:00 PM)dexter Wrote:  Ha Ha Ha!




I must say that I see the point of not screwing our favorite pheromone distributors.
But I don't see DGamers attempt to trade/sell way back in April as something that rose to the "ABUSE" level.
5 bottles of used mones
2 new bottles

Then again, maybe it was more aggravating before he edited his post.
I vote "Go easy on DGamer" and "Go easy on dexter, I'm sure I'll mess up soon and need it."

The only edit to the post was changing of "$XX" to the word "TRADE".

Thank you Dexter : )