what is the deer antler velvet pill product you use called? and Himalayan salt i never heard of that being used for energy now i gotta do some research ^_^

Fascinating, I did not see this thread before. I may be considering this, though I don't really work out. I'm quite active in the warmer months though

I use this as my cheat weight loss supplement at times because it speeds up my metabolism, so i can eat a reasonable amount of junk food and not gain weight. i think it can be used without working out as a daily supplement because of all the benefits

I gotta say, I don't feel like there was any change when I was using the pills -- But I'm willing to give it another try, maybe this is naive but I don't think all major sports would ban it's use if it had zero effect.

I'll try the liquid version once before I give my final verdict.

(01-28-2012 3:59 PM)Gojira Wrote:  I gotta say, I don't feel like there was any change when I was using the pills -- But I'm willing to give it another try, maybe this is naive but I don't think all major sports would ban it's use if it had zero effect.

I'll try the liquid version once before I give my final verdict.

I believe the reason why major sporting commissions (mainly the us) ban it is because it is like a loop hole against what they stand for (natural performance) even though most athletes use some sort of an enhancement supplement(hypocrites i tell ya ) the gains you get from using deer antler velvet is more natural and because of that the commissions cant test for it accurately (they have like a 24 hour window) the d.a.v extract has said to be more effective method for the body to absorb and is way safer than synthetic igf-1 hgh(human growth hormones) which has shown to produce cancerous cells in the body... one bottle is enough to see the effects or you take a super dosage two times your normal daily serving in one go you will feel like Rambo lol

(01-28-2012 3:59 PM)Gojira Wrote:  I gotta say, I don't feel like there was any change when I was using the pills -- But I'm willing to give it another try, maybe this is naive but I don't think all major sports would ban it's use if it had zero effect.

I'll try the liquid version once before I give my final verdict.

how much were you taking
i have the liquid an it says the average number of droppers(not drops) is from 3-6 (1,400 mgs-2,400 mgs)

i've been taking 3-4 per day

http://www.amazon.com/Zealand-Antler-Vel...599&sr=8-1

(01-28-2012 5:17 PM)shadowknight Wrote:  how much were you taking
i have the liquid an it says the average number of droppers(not drops) is from 3-6 (1,400 mgs-2,400 mgs)

i've been taking 3-4 per day

http://www.amazon.com/Zealand-Antler-Vel...599&sr=8-1

The package suggested I take two a day, so I stuck with that. I've got some heart problems so I'm extremely cautious when it comes to using any supplements.

oh ok well the liquid is suppose to be taken sublingually (under the tongue)

(01-28-2012 5:20 PM)Gojira Wrote:  The package suggested I take two a day, so I stuck with that. I've got some heart problems so I'm extremely cautious when it comes to using any supplements.

the most i took at one time was 6 droppers thats almost double my daily serving and i felt blood rushing through all of my body as if my muscles were engorged with blood i dont know the extent of your condition but i think if you up the dosage gradually by spreading it throughout the day you shouldn't have a problem

The daily use of chondroitin sulfate A - a key element of velvet antler - was found to reduce the risk of fatal heart attacks and stroke by more than 400 percenthttp://www.deerantlervelvet.net/articles...velvet.cfm

http://www.vitaminsinamerica.com/news/velvet.htm


found this list of believed benefits
• A dramatic increase in energy, endurance, and stamina. true
• Deeper, more restful sleep. Feel vitalized upon awakening. true
• More youthful appearance. Less wrinkles. Smoother skin.
• Improved mental clarity, intelligence, and memory.
• Less aches and pain, stiffness, immobility.true
• Improved body tone. (Fat loss and / or increased musculature.)
• Less depression. More joy – sense of well being. Handle stress better.true
• Increased libido. Better, more satisfying love making. true
• Relief from ailments or health problems.
• Increased athletic performance and skill. true
• Improved hearing, eyesight, taste, smell, and feeling.
• Improved cardiac function.
• Increased bone density, strength, and health.
• Prevention of injury through stronger bodily functions.
• Quick wound healing and recovery when an injury does occur.
• Efficient cellular function for dramatic slowing down of the aging process.
• Reduced hunger pains, cravings, and addictions. true
• Increased immune function.
• Thicker healthier hair, more natural hair color.
• Healthier and thicker nails.
• Hormonal balancing, especially for women.
• Absence of seasonal allergies and ailments.
• Improvement in blood sugar levels.
• Increased job skills, creativity, and performance. true

true=what i have seen in 10 days of usage