Dianne's products are excellent, I've pretty much sampled all of them excepting Tiger Juice. The only one that hasn't worked for me was Tournesol, but that is a skin chemistry issue. She is very talented and extremely smart, but a lot of artists/geniuises are tempermental. Imo, she would do better to have an objective third party run her cutsomer service/forum.
This forum and Love Potion are the only two I participate in anymore. I would rather buy pheromones through a third party vendor, than deal directly with the manufacturers for obvious reasons, & Mara is one of the nicest people on the planet, lol. As to Paradise7, Dianne has sent free samples my way when I ordered directly & one of a blend she knew I already used and loved.

FTR I started in sales in 1989, that's a few years now, and I've dunn ok for myself since.

It's obvious that vendors want to control their own forums in this industry, so they host their own and delete anything they dont like.
What a professionals do is turn negative reviews into constructive criticism and more sales.
You cant compare online sales with a fast food store, or a store selling knives.
Once you put an online cart, you cannot control who clicks it.
Offering products without intending to supply is fraud in many countries.
So where is the disclaimer that not all will be supplied?
And on what basis & conditions is supply offered?
PS placing an item in a shop window with a price is not an "offer".

Beccah I placed more than one order and got no samples.
Do I have to kiss D's arse to get samples, or post how wonderful the products are?

As for the products themselves, I speak from my experience and I've used them and many others with the same people over many mths and I can pretty much now predict how they respond to them.
Infact FTL is the only product that made someone move further away from me, and that was a person i know well.
Oh well, there goes any chance of samples lol

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  It's obvious that vendors want to control their own forums in this industry, so they host their own and delete anything they dont like.

Yes, of course. Most pheromone companies do that on their own forums. Thats why this forum is great since it doesnt belong to any of them.

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  You cant compare online sales with a fast food store, or a store selling knives.
Once you put an online cart, you cannot control who clicks it.

Its sounds very comparable if you ask me. As you say, you cant control who click online. But you also cant control who decide to enter your store. After all, many sell food, or knifes both online and in store at same time. Why make any difference then?
And no matter what you sell, also if you sell it online or in a shop, you should put your foot down if you belive the customer will abuse you or the product. Or if the customer clearly do not know how to use the product. Dianes choice was to refuse the customer. Mark-in-Dallas suggested handling out samples instead while a third choice could be trying to get in dialoge with customer and try explain how to use the pheromone in detail. But no matter what she choosed, it would have been wrong just handling the order out while pretending everything was ok. Its about taking responsability.

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  Offering products without intending to supply is fraud in many countries.

That is not completely correct. Its keeping the money for product, without intending to supply, that is fraud in many countries. Actually most countries. Diane returned the money and did nothing wrong.
You will always run a risk to be refused as customer from most companies. Do you think a liquer store never refuse a customer? Most likely they refuse customers every day. that is because they take responsability.

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  So where is the disclaimer that not all will be supplied?

I guess you could say that about every company. I dont think i seen many : "We refuse to handle stupidity or abuse"

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  PS placing an item in a shop window with a price is not an "offer".

So what is it then?

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  Beccah I placed more than one order and got no samples.
Do I have to kiss D's arse to get samples, or post how wonderful the products are?

So you got no samples? Why is that so bad? Did you ask for freebies?
Is it common to get free samples on every order you makes from pheromone companies? I have been dealing with 5 pheromone companies and never got any kind of freebies from anyone. But i nevers asked for any samples either.

(03-28-2011 2:49 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  Infact FTL is the only product that made someone move further away from me, and that was a person i know well.
Oh well, there goes any chance of samples lol

That really is your loss. I say that because FTL is working great for me, and its sad you dont get the same experience with FTL. I dont know why it dont work for you. I guess there could be houndreds of reasons. I did read you also got nothing from Tiger Juice. But i also read in your journal that you mixed FTL with Tiger Juice, and as Diane say, its specifically important that Tiger Juice is used alone if you want to see any effect from it. So maybe you didnt read about TJ and FTL at her site?
Well, sometimes things are not working for you even when it does for other. I didnt get Men at Play to work even when all the others is great for me.

To answer your question Pheroman, I have no idea. If I was able to predictably read minds, then I'm sure I would be far wealthier than I currently am...

In response to Q-Tips, I'm used to getting free samples regularly from LPMP, but they aren't really a pheromone vendor. They're actually a perfume house that utilizes pheromones. I've ordered from AD before, and also received a free sample with that order.

As far as getting responses from blends (any blends), generally not everyone can expect the same, if any, results. This being due to your individual skin chemistry. I generally don't post negative reviews, but my silence is indicative of either: A; I haven't tried it, or B; I got no results. I suppose I should report even if a blend doesn't work, but unless I'm specifically asked, it seems to be a waste of my time. Then again, if I have a negative experience with a retailer, I usually don't buy from them again, and because I do share my new purchases in my journals, you can see the record of my positive buying experiences and results. Off to go update