If I may add to the discussion, I've used TAL and TAH in some of my mixes (although admittedly not on their own) and the effects I saw were:

- Both give off a beta impression on the wearer (typically I'd had double the amount of None/Androsterone compared to either of these).

- TAL made the women in my vicinity feel spunky (for want of a better word - kind of like empowered but not as strong as the word implies). Makes the more Alpha in a feminine manner - louder, more expressive.

TAH - made them softer but gave off a more beta (feminine vibe from me). It's harder to counter with None/Androsterone than TAL. If not careful the wearer has a chance of becoming her 'girlfriend'. Not one for guys who are placed the friendzones all the time.

I didn't have much use for TAH and only used it in 2 mixes. TAL when paired with P83/None and some Alpha nol (disclaimer: happened in drinking environment, alcohol was involved) increased the chances of women opening me. Girls acted far more uninhibited than with P83 alone.

As I said, I've never tested them on their own so my observations may be skewed. I just wanted to add my experiences in case anyone has something similar with Epiandrosterone, cross validation of results so to speak.

I get an Instant Gentleman kind of vibe. I want to try anchoring this with some Androsterone.

(06-23-2011 8:10 PM)dbot Wrote:  I get an Instant Gentleman kind of vibe. I want to try anchoring this with some Androsterone.

you nailed it ... now i know what it remembered me !

Pago

Hey guys, at bedtime from yesterday (Epi-Androsterone day) to today I have intensive vivid dreams. I see this effects also with P91... Pago and I agree with the fact that the epi-Androsterone effects are like a combination of TAH and TAL. Something between. P91 look at this way...

(06-23-2011 8:10 PM)dbot Wrote:  I get an Instant Gentleman kind of vibe. I want to try anchoring this with some Androsterone.

Yes and no, Instant Gentleman makes my really nervous, I never see this with Androsterone or epi-Androsterone... Unless, the combination of both do this...

Gentlemen, please excuse my ignorance and a bit of thread hijacking... Does any of you know what is into Androtic´s Instant Gentleman? It makes me feel really laid back relaxed.

Thanks.

Talk to you soon.

(06-24-2011 5:17 PM)extraballislit Wrote:  Gentlemen, please excuse my ignorance and a bit of thread hijacking... Does any of you know what is into Androtic´s Instant Gentleman? It makes me feel really laid back relaxed.

Thanks.

Talk to you soon.

Nobody really knows what's in any of Androtics' products. Rumor has it that Instant Gentleman is predominantly Androsterone.

(06-24-2011 5:17 PM)extraballislit Wrote:  Gentlemen, please excuse my ignorance and a bit of thread hijacking... Does any of you know what is into Androtic´s Instant Gentleman? It makes me feel really laid back relaxed.

Thanks.

Talk to you soon.

Instant Gentleman has a total 15 mcgs. 12.5 mcgs is Androsterone and 2.5 mcgs of an unknown phero. Some believe it is TAF.

(06-24-2011 6:27 PM)JesseJester Wrote:  Instant Gentleman has a total 15 mcgs. 12.5 mcgs is Androsterone and 2.5 mcgs of an unknown phero. Some believe it is TAF.

It was rumored to be P95 into Instant Gentleman ...

but that´s hard to pinpoint ... Johnny has tried it and i as well ...

we do not like the stuff !

... on there site they say it´s Androsterone in Instant Gentleman ... they do not say which kinda Androsterone ...

Pago

(06-25-2011 9:02 AM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  It was rumored to be P95 into Instant Gentleman ...

but that´s hard to pinpoint ... Johnny has tried it and i as well ...

we do not like the stuff !

... on there site they say it´s Androsterone in Instant Gentleman ... they do not say which kinda Androsterone ...

Pago

Interesting. I dont think I have tried P95. What didnt you like about it?