I have great results from some Apex, LAL and PXs mixes but also have some of their products that don't work well for me, However I would pick Apex for the simple reasons that thundr tries to innovate (like John), and he is active on the forum, sharing his knowledge and contributing to this community.
Thanks thundr

M.

Toss up between LAL and apex, I chose apex because of five and I believe there are some good mixes coming in the future. However I don't like it that when I want to repurchase CV4 I got an answer after at least only one month and now with five my question is completely ignored.

LAL is the most consistent vendor I've used, and although I can't wear some of their mixes, even those worked for me on others. With a few improvements, Apex easily has the potential to overtake them.

update on my post: Thundr did replied and he's going to sell me more five , the reason there was trouble with cv4 was probably because he was working on five

I like LAL a lot...one of the reasons I didn't choose them is because of ME more so. I think Garry's products have a steeper learning curve than others. He also has the best scented product, although I've only had Wolf and AV as scents. I meant to add that I don't really like PXS scents. Apex has better scents but I prefer to use my own cover. LAL also has great product presentation, despite the vintage website. I voted for PXS based on how complete I feel they are as a vendor, even though I've had more success with other vendor's products. I plan on testing Kane (LAL), re-testing SXD-9 (LAL), ETFZ (PT), and another Apex product before the year is out. 2017 will likely see a new favorite vendor, just a hunch. But I wish more vendors would have a rewards program...its great incentive for us, and helps with customer retention for them.

LAL makes some rock solid products and I owe a lot to AV and all it did for me out of the gate. Prices are high and so are concentrations as well as balancing. No one can really deny that most products they sell are top notch quality and scent packages are mostly universally palpable. Never the less, Apex has come through when it comes to value. Being an active member on the boards does help, as soon after I placed an order I had a snafoo with my Aventus bottle and thundr stepped in and saved the day.
More over, he's always eager to send us samples of new things he has started to test. His packages are shipped with care and appreciation of our business. LAL is a machine; kind of on auto pilot with a dark mischievous creator, at the helm. Apex is engaged and focused on delivering time and time again. Communicative, innovative, and passionate; almost to a point of utter concern for the health of his business. How can he continue to offer so much for such a relatively low price? He offers new comers an excellent entry point with his prices AND he has a guarantee if the shoe doesn't fit. I have spent more money with Apex than I have with any other vendor.

Apex or thundr have not paid me or compensated me for this endorsement

LAL

1. Apex

Ahead of any other vendor in the effective composition of molecules.
(Best knowledge of molecule-effects and synergies, goes along with best choice of actual used molecules)
Best cover-scents.
Best variety of products for different purposes.
Very good pricing and service, despite the part-time business.
Community oriented.
Open to suggestions and adventurous trial and error/test kitchen approach.

2. LAL

Best variety of substances used so far, but too many unbalanced or crass effects as the biggest handicap
Nice to see this vendor adavancing carrier-technology.
Quick delievery.

3. PXS

Best single molecule section and nice to have some putatives available for purchase. Good service.

(04-15-2016 12:58 PM)GoergeFocky Wrote:  1. Apex

Ahead of any other vendor in the effective composition of molecules.
(Best knowledge of molecule-effects and synergies, goes along with best choice of actual used molecules)
Best cover-scents.
Best variety of products for different purposes.
Very good pricing and service, despite the part-time business.
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My understanding is that it is not a part-time business anymore. But obviously that does not invalidate all the points you mentioned. I agree with all of them and I would add that thundr has also advanced on the carrier technology. His oils diffuse and last incredibly long. They are unmatched

M.

1) Apex:

Extreme personal touch and relies on customer feedback for product launch. We know that what things can come in future.

2) Lal:

Amazingly run company. He is bit secretive about his innovation. May be he already has few 100 testers. Only thing I dislike is Garry despise the forums. He is right but still.

3) Pheromonetreasure:

I recently bought swoon. Most importantly active in the forums and bring new innovation.

4) PXS

They still have coded molecules. It is not in the interest of the community. I could have rated them high but I don't like there practices. Garry is running business for longer than you and doesn't do any reward program or stuff like that. He proves that his mones are the best.

I think they should work on new products than marketing. They own best marketing award from me. Amazingly good at marketing. Uses most techniques in the book. Nothing to disguise but being cautious is good. \


Don't take my review personally. If the company is here than I must have taken trouble to buy something from you and that means you are good. It is just about preferences.