Hi guys,

I'm currently using BW, which works awesome for me. Later today after work I'll write an update in the BW thread.

I'm looking at Voodoo at the moment. Since I've gotten to a point in my life where I want a long-term relationship, kids, all that good stuff, I'm looking for products that are not just sexual. Although BW does act like a social next to the sexual for me, it isn't the right product for real long-term commitment.

So I was thinking about combining BW and VD. In theory they sound like a solid combination to me, but, well, first of all I'm new to this. And second of all, I know that some products just don't go well together.

Has anyone used BW and VD together? And is it a good combination to begin with? And if so, would it also be good for my desired outcome?

Thanks guys.

P.S. I love this place!

They have totally different vibes, so it likely wouldn't be a good idea to combine them.

BW, has that fear-based respect and attraction thing going. As a result, I use it alone to not ruin it's vibe and purpose, and Garry's stuff is all designed to be standalone anyway. Safe to say, he's more of an expert than anyone buying his stuff. The way I see it, if it was a good thing to put in (and legal to do so, like the Nude Alpha/Androstadienone situation he's spoken of...) it'd be in there. Otherwise, you're likely to just upset it's balance and ruin the effect of it. In BW's case, it doesn't need anything else added to it, it's designed for fear-based respect and attraction and it does that amazingly. For it's purpose, it's epic. I've already gone into the reasons why it fails guys millions of times lol, so I'm not getting into that here.

Voodoo I find is a good social formula, which I frequently combine with A-1 from LAL. But, to be honest, I haven't seen any imprinting from it, compared to my experiences with Nude Alpha and A-1. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but merely that I haven't seen it. It's a new mix, so it'll possibly take some time to figure it out. Although, Nude Alpha is considered to be one of the trickiest formulas to figure out and get success with. However, I think Nude Alpha had a lot more info and successful tests and a "profile" about what kind of formula it is and what to expect by this period or product maturity in the market. So...say of that what you will. Me personally, I've lost a bit of confidence in my Voodoo and have changed dosages a bit lately since my review on it in a last ditch effort to coax some new life out of it, but with no real change in effect. All of my products get good social benefits, so none of that is new, the imprinting stronger than Nude Alpha/Androstadienone is what I wanted, and so far this product hasn't delivered on that. I may switch to one of my other formulas and put it on the shelf for now until more info on it is acquired.

It's a shame, but I give pure truth here. No BS, no placebo delusions.

I'd not recommend combing Voodoo and BW. I've tested it myself. Voodoo is so strong that it over takes the BW's effects . I couldn't feel the BW's vibe myself or even see the effects on others of BW, it's mostly Voodoo effects.

Even, I tried Voodoo and Wolf combo and it doesn't work out.

So I think Voodoo is better on its own with Androstadienone .