(05-12-2016 2:31 PM)NikkiReloaded Wrote:  Hmmm...I've had a lot of fun with Holy Grail and some strong attraction, but I've never sealed the deal, if I recollect, on anything from HAX. Perhaps this is the underlying reason why HAX isn't reported on more here.

I wonder if EST isn't giving flashy effects with little results for most users. With few exceptions (Wingman Black and Evolve being the main ones), I rarely hear of anyone closing using EST-containning mixes.

(04-10-2015 1:47 PM)Paradox Wrote:  Holy Grail By HAX
Lady Killer By HAX
Pherocide By HAX
Black Ops By HAX
Wingman Black By HAX
Element X By HAX
Pherofusion919 By HAX
Erox by Eros

Damn dude, I just tested Pherocide and I reported that it's a great ice-breaker but I noticed there wasn't a sexual kick to it. I liked the effects but EST does bother me since it mutes Androstenone.

(04-10-2015 9:11 PM)raikahoken Wrote:  Evolve has Est too

Unreal, I just check the ingredient list and sure enough ESTratetraenol. However I stand by my review, I found that Evolve does work well on me. Is it possible that the Est content is so low therefore not totally killing the mix?

I remember a while back on this forum a vet had issues with True Love because it contained Androstadienone , Est and Meo which he said fucked him up. I remember I tossed the remaining bottle because I didn't want to run the risk.

The EST in Evolve may be enough to drastically change the character of the mix. That much androstenone would normally result in some extremely polarizing responses. I'd like to try using EST in amounts 1/1000th or less than what's contained in Evolve to find out if extremely low doses will result in any desirable effects, minus the downsides Paradox and other EST-sensitive individuals have noted.