Personally I like the scent of L&S so much I almost wish the mones were weaker. One spray almost doesn't seem enough just smell wise. I've been using two, one to the throat and one to the wrists, and haven't had any issues though. Never seem to get negative reactions or comments so I think 2 is workable for me (and smells good).

anyone know some good colognes that are like leather and steel?

(12-10-2015 3:15 PM)blitz Wrote:  anyone know some good colognes that are like leather and steel?

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(12-10-2015 3:15 PM)blitz Wrote:  anyone know some good colognes that are like leather and steel?

Bvlgari Black oil from thefragranceshop.com smells identical, so I guess the EDT must smell the same too

Interesting thing I've noticed.. l2k v1 (1 spray) seems to do very well attracting some northern European girls . Whereas I find traditional southern European women are initially at least taken back at it. When it changes on the skin to more sexual the southern Europeans like it very much as its more manly.. Through many trials I found Italian, portugese, and Lebanese, women I came in contact with not really jiving with l2k v1 in early stages.. tall English, Croatian, Serbian women , etc in my circle -- they all seemed to LOVE it. These same southern European women who didn't initially like l2k v1, loved AM(2 sprays) when I switched to it! In case your wondering when I say they don't like it, I don't mean they tell me off or run away.. I just mean they seem distant and reserved, and at times almost a frown comes over their face like they know your trouble, a player, or just not their type.

Most southern eurpoeans are attracted to manly men, macho men.. Which is why I reason they like the AM vibe and heavy none so much.

Behavior also plays a role, with AM I feel more sexually confident and a go getter to close and work seduction, with l2k v1 I feel more laid back , astute, and just live in the moment. This resulting change in personality could also be playing a role in terms of relating to south vs north.

Anyone else care to elaborate on my experiences? Did you notice something similar/different?

Wore 2 sprays L2K v1 again today to work. Not really to see reactions from women, but more to gauge whether I can stand the self effects. The end of my 90-day return period is almost here and I will be testing L2K/AM heavily the next two weeks. For the first 5 hours I was fine, didn't notice anything self effects wise or from others. But after around 5.5 hours, I felt the familiar lethargy. Goodness my eyelids are so heavy right now. I even took 1 extra cup of coffee and it's not helping. I'll be testing it a few more times.

So weird that I don't get lethargy at all from l2k. I know I'm at least somewhat Androstadienone sensitive because straight Androstadienone and Cohesion will give me depressive thoughts at the end of a night.

Maybe it's because I'm a hardcore caffeine addict so I don't really notice the l2k lethargy?

(12-14-2015 12:21 AM)raikahoken Wrote:  Wore 2 sprays L2K v1 again today to work. Not really to see reactions from women, but more to gauge whether I can stand the self effects. The end of my 90-day return period is almost here and I will be testing L2K/AM heavily the next two weeks. For the first 5 hours I was fine, didn't notice anything self effects wise or from others. But after around 5.5 hours, I felt the familiar lethargy. Goodness my eyelids are so heavy right now. I even took 1 extra cup of coffee and it's not helping. I'll be testing it a few more times.

I talk more in my recent journal entry about the extreme side effects of l2k v1 I experience , often 2 days after use, and why it is on the back burner for me.

Good for you Gitmo!

(12-14-2015 9:46 AM)dsouza Wrote:  I talk more in my recent journal entry about the extreme side effects of l2k v1 I experience , often 2 days after use, and why it is on the back burner for me.

Yeah I've seen your posts. On me the effects are more immediate. Just this morning I put on just one spray, and soon after I started yawning. By half an hour I felt like sleeping. Had to wipe it off and put on some Wolf. I'm gonna return it for sure. Just gonna test AM by next week to see if I want to ask them to replace with AM.

No negative selfies from L2K v1 for me. I, also, am a stimulant junkie.