Ok, Lobster is delicious. It's gotta die of something, so it might as well be me.

I've worn both v1 and v2 and like how both make me feel. I get very subtle self effects from just about everything. But with l2k 1/2 I get a strange sense of calm, with 2 adding just a slight edge to it. I haven't had much in the way of hits lately but that's because 99 percent of my time is with coworkers in a professional environment. Unfortunately right now I can't spend a lot of time mingling. Traveling for business, and mostly in a college environment where me making any moves would be inappropriate. One of our college interns has shown some IOI's and some cleavage, but nothing that I can say is more than just her nature, and either way she's a major no fly zone. I usually just have time to go to sports bars to catch football on weekends. A couple of hot female bar tenders have taken a slightly more than just angling for tips interest in me, and I can attribute that to L2K I think.

I didn't use LIIK V2. Regarding LIIK V1... I have trouble with even small doses of alpha THDOC such as those used in that mix. They easily put me to sleep. I had some issues with LIIK V1 in that regard. Don't get me wrong. It's great stuff. Alpha without the negative reactions of alpha mixes. That's hard to do.

I still use Alpha THDOC in my own mixes, but the "somebody zonks out, maybe me" factor is at least a small negative. It particularly seems to hit people with ADD or narcolepsy (or those who haven't gotten a good nights sleep.) If I use it in the future I'm going to be putting some neno or something similar on my lower lip to prevent me from going to bed early and testing how that impacts the mix in general.

So just curious; how much testing have you done on the dose of alpha-THDOC you used?

I don't know all the differences with LIIK V2, but the addition of Androsterone sulfate to the mix seems like it has to have been an improvement from a theoretical standpoint. I really like Androsterone sulfate. If you keep selling LIIK V2, could you at least keep the Androsterone sulfate? What other changes were made between the two?

Does anyone have a link for LIIK V1? Is it still available?

(11-23-2012 2:06 AM)wiserd Wrote:  I don't know all the differences with LIIK V2, but the addition of Androsterone sulfate to the mix seems like it has to have been an improvement from a theoretical standpoint. I really like Androsterone sulfate. If you keep selling LIIK V2, could you at least keep the Androsterone sulfate? What other changes were made between the two?

Here Wiserd, I tried to keep track of all the info given from Chris while developing both versions. There was enough info to estimate a little on things.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-An-Ostriche...8#pid65118

I have to agree some what but I don't have issues with Alpha THDOC.. But I think what would be most optimal is a hybrid between v1 and v2... I'm thinking using the lower none ratios in v1 but using the other improvements that were incorporated into v2.

I like v2 but it is a different direction then v1. V1 brought a 'come be with me and be yourself' whereas v2 is a spirited sexual mix.

Its amazing that v1 does not set off people with none sensitivities, or just barely detectable and I love that!

(11-23-2012 9:47 AM)TwistedOstrich Wrote:  But I think what would be most optimal is a hybrid between v1 and v2... I'm thinking using the lower none ratios in v1 but using the other improvements that were incorporated into v2.

i agree

(11-23-2012 10:09 PM)lifeisgood7 Wrote:  i agree

x2

Bump^

"Alpha without the negative reactions of alpha mixes. That's hard to do. "

I've been mulling this comment of mine over. "Alpha" is probably the wrong descriptor. Lowered barriers, comfort... how long does alpha-THDOC hang around? It seems to last as long as Androstenone or longer. Or am I imagining this?

(11-23-2012 9:32 AM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  

Quote:Does anyone have a link for LIIK V1? Is it still available?

I hope LIIK V1 is still available, however i am not certain which version is being sent out at this point in time....

(11-23-2012 9:32 AM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Does anyone have a link for LIIK V1? Is it still available?

They're all out of v.2 at the moment. The L2K you order right now will be v.1.