(Yesterday 12:18 PM)ShadowX114 Wrote:  mobocaster is the one with the seal/sloth avatar correct?
Last summer, when I went back to pherotalk after years of absence, I asked for recommendation. He and another veteran member (If I recall, he had a colorful avatar) suggested me some products. What turned me off is how they were recommending me MX and Ps and it felt overwhelming: TAL, TAF, Androsterone, etc. and it was all about mix this and that. I thought it was too complicating "what happened to the "spray and go"?

Yeah, that kind of stuff turned me away too. I never posted there but when I was trying to get more info on certain products and what they do, most posts in their topics seem to include something else to go along with "x" product. It's like they have products that do one thing (IO, IH, IS, Ammo) but you have to mix and match and add on more to make it do this and that just to get better results; I'd rather buy a product that can work fine without adding P this or MX that in 5mcg at a time, it gets too scientific and complicated. Spraying on 4 or more products to get a certain result doesn't seem as worth it and if that's the only way to get their stuff to get some form of results and hits, I'd rather use a better product from somewhere else and save money too. I'm glad I found this forum and learned about better companies and products.

(Yesterday 12:18 PM)ShadowX114 Wrote:  m
Anyways, what really "red flagged" me and made me google for other companies (which I ended up finding PheroTruth and thus all the other vendors) is when the colorful-avatar member PMed me to recommend me another product and I told him that I will start a journal on the forums once I get the products. His reply was:

"I highly suggest you code or censor your journal with these. Stick with pms. Other companies which water down the product, and then over-hype it with bogus marketing will try to rip off the info and bulk purchase from here, and then you cant get it here anymore at quality concentration. Protect the stash."

Sounds like monesmademedoit, he was a weird one. He claimed all other products were inferior and purple only wanted stronger products because they lacked his masterful PUA skills. From the beginning he cane across like a shill. Androtics products are superior, blah,blah,blah.. He would attack anyone that questioned Androtics and make all these weird personal challenges. Then after year of Androtics promising new products and delivering zilch he changed. He began to question them and got labeled a spammer.

My bad, I left the part when I said "a member with a colorful avatar" instead of just mentioning his name because I saw it when I went to my PM inbox to copy/paste the PM he sent me. It was actually Iwatkins , not monesmadmedoit.

neon Wrote:as if that's the only way to get their stuff to get some form of results and hits

That's how I felt when I was reading their replies. I went back to my last thread and here are some replies/sentences I got:

- You could get a to-go of TAA - 7.5 roughly And some TAF, compare the effects to get an idea how you respond. Add this to A314 or IG as a base.
- I have had a lot of success with P75 combined with Ig and half-sprays of heat from a 30 ml,
- I would suggest your next order should probably be a 30 ml of ExperiMone AndrosteRONE at 5 mcg / spray. Do just 1 spray of Androsterone every say 5-6 hours. It is extremely well-taken by the ladies. Add to the Androsterone 2-4 sprays IO. A-Nol and Androsterone is a very good combo

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But on a side note, just so we don't make this a 100% "Androtics sucks", here's what I wrote about IH last year (although that IH was bought back in ~2008)


Instant Honesty (wow!!)
I have my father's appartment for myself this week. So I brought this girl that I've been dating for few months now. I wore a spray of IH behind each ear. IO on my front neck and 2 spray of IS on my arms. This girl is a caring person but she tries not to reveal too much about her. Therefore, she's mostly a listener, she likes to "be there" for people. However, those two days, she talked a lot! She told me stories when she was in her early 20s. She told me about her sisters' ex fiances when I asked her about them, etc. She eventually told me how come she's the one doing all the talking. The day after, I asked her what made her open up like that; is it because it was the first time she came over and she felt cozy? She said "no, I just felt like it". To me, that was an amazing result because she's usually reserved!

(Yesterday 10:40 AM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Lol so everybody knows who I am talking about.

Pretty much.He is too obvious.

Ah yes, I remember monesmemedoit attacking SteveO on no solid basis. I can't remember exactly what it was about but I recall he was shilling on the boards constantly.

(Yesterday 5:29 PM)ShadowX114 Wrote:  ---------------
But on a side note, just so we don't make this a 100% "Androtics sucks", here's what I wrote about IH last year (although that IH was bought back in ~2008)


Instant Honesty (wow!!)
I have my father's apartment for myself this week. So I brought this girl that I've been dating for few months now. I wore a spray of IH behind each ear. IO on my front neck and 2 spray of IS on my arms. This girl is a caring person but she tries not to reveal too much about her. Therefore, she's mostly a listener, she likes to "be there" for people. However, those two days, she talked a lot! She told me stories when she was in her early 20s. She told me about her sisters' ex fiances when I asked her about them, etc. She eventually told me how come she's the one doing all the talking. The day after, I asked her what made her open up like that; is it because it was the first time she came over and she felt cozy? She said "no, I just felt like it". To me, that was an amazing result because she's usually reserved!

That's the saddest part... we all have nice things to say about their products. I love TAC. Great stuff. I thought about stocking up as a few others were suggesting. My backbone punched me in the liver and said no way. I wanted it unscented anyways so I could spray it on my sheets undetected in the area right around where a woman would lay her head. The good guys over at AD wanted me to pay more for less product (no scent). A LOT more. I'm guessing this is their way of being controlling in case someone is adding it to their commercial mixes or something, IDK. Seems paranoid but then again, these guys!?!

If I had the opportunity to try more of their products... Obviously A314, I might have been a loyal customer. Despite my hate speech here because they personally attacked me, the whole situation makes me sad. What a loss to this community. I really hope that some other products made by other vendors don't use TAC. I picked up a bottle of SXD-9 because reviews said it had TAC like qualities. Haven't tried it yet because my SO is in another state... Soon.

Anyways, F*ck androtics.

Last thought, 300th post! I better get big reps for this insightful gem! I kid I kid.

You hope they don't contain TAC? I assume that was a typo. Anyways, you can find TAC in both SXD-9 and Evolve. I'm not aware of any others off-hand.

(Today 8:37 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  You hope they don't contain TAC? I assume that was a typo. Anyways, you can find TAC in both SXD-9 and Evolve. I'm not aware of any others off-hand.

How did I know you would know that? Bummer. Does that mean those products go away too if they fold? So this means that even when I bought these products I was still supporting AD. Sigh. lol, I just can't win can I?