Just noticed this post.

I'm only on Day 1, but so far, I can say ORMUS has been the most significant substance I've ever used in terms of improving my patience. I'm using TibetanGold's Liquid SunLight Gold Lining. N-acetyl Selank might work as well.

If it's ADD causing your problems, then I'd suggest a combination of N-acetyl Semax Amidate and Curcumin. This has been the most significant combination I've taken for my ADD to date. No need for stimulants or Modafinil anymore.

(09-15-2015 3:30 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I'm only on Day 1, but so far, I can say ORMUS has been the most significant substance I've ever used in terms of improving my patience. I'm using TibetanGold's Liquid SunLight Gold Lining. N-acetyl Selank might work as well.

What else have you noticed?

Just finished my first bottle from Blue water. I've really noticed a clarity about four hours in. That's about it for me. I haven't noticed anything earth moving but it seems to give me a calm and clarity for sure. The greys in my beard are still there. I think its been about a month. I'm gonna guy another bottle as soon as I sort out my mail issues in my new place. I do have some of their ormus for plants still... I wonder if its fit for humans. Gotta be the same stuff, right?

I've noticed that I'm positively detached from my egoic mind. Any ego-based thoughts that pop up are easily ignored. ORMUS is a powerful teacher in this respect.

I've noticed a greater awareness of my surroundings - maybe not to the extent of NASA, but not far off either. NASA increases awareness of the seen, the tangible. ORMUS increases awareness of the unseen. ORMUS increases my focus, and in doing so, like NASA, it reduces my ADD symptoms.

I have a stronger desire to do what is necessary, to be helpful and grateful when I can. ORMUS increases my energy without being stimulating, much like a mitochondrial enhancer would. Perhaps ORMUS acts as a mitochondrial enhancer?

ORMUS is a far more powerful adaptogen than any of the others I've used. I wouldn't be surprised if it were responsible for the adaptogenic effects of all substances.

ORMUS definitely promotes stem-cell proliferation. Healing rate is significantly sped up. The only substance that bested it in this respect (ever-so-slightly) was C60oo. Also, pain is reduced - I don't suffer from chronic pain, but occasionally I give myself minor burns or cuts. Normally I'd feel this somewhat, during or after the fact. On ORMUS, I feel nothing or next to nothing.

This is just 2 days in. I'm sure I'll notice far more in the coming weeks. Keep in mind I'm using a different product than kimosabe, so the nature of the effects may be different, to some extent.

I can't say if the plant products are suitable for human ingestion. You'd have to ask kimosabe about that, or email BWA.

In the 1st shipment, BWA mis-labelled eOrmus Alkaline Water as "Gaia's Harvest Ormus Concentrate Water for Agricultural Use." I emailed them and got a reply that it was a mis-labelling, but that even if it weren't mis-labelled, Gaia's Harvest Ormus Concentrate Water for Agricultural Use would be suitable for human consumption.

Not sure whether this applies to the Gaia's Harvest ORMUS though.

(09-16-2015 6:52 PM)kimosabe Wrote:  Gaia's Harvest Ormus Concentrate Water for Agricultural Use would be suitable for human consumption.

Not sure whether this applies to the Gaia's Harvest ORMUS though.

Haha, I emailed this very question this morning. He said it is as well.

I didn't want to have a bottle get lost in the mail. So I delayed my next order. I took the same 1 tsp. of Gaia this morning. Seems the same except the taste. Felt it had a cheap plastic taste to it. The milk and honey tasted good and slightly salty. My next order I'm just going to buy a sample of all the blends.

(09-15-2015 3:30 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I'm only on Day 1, but so far, I can say ORMUS has been the most significant substance I've ever used in terms of improving my patience. I'm using TibetanGold's Liquid SunLight Gold Lining. N-acetyl Selank might work as well.

Making some huge statements here and in your following post. Ormus looked to me like genuine bs, so I wanted to know if you've looked at the biological / chemical mechanics and what your thoughts were?

(09-18-2015 2:13 AM)Macro Wrote:  Making some huge statements here and in your following post. Ormus looked to me like genuine bs, so I wanted to know if you've looked at the biological / chemical mechanics and what your thoughts were?

I felt the same way about ORMUS, which is why I wanted to try it, but I can confirm it's the real deal, at least for the brand I'm using.

I have looked into whatever studies I could find, but there was only one, and personal experience so far has told me far more than what was covered in that study.

With further tests, as with NASA, the effects died down a bit, but have remained for the most part. There seems to be a good amount of activity at sigma receptors, which would explain its painkilling properties. There's also a delayed dopamine release, not too intense, but I've backed off my dose from 1/2 tsp to 1/4 tsp because of it.

Neither of these were mentioned in any studies, nor its adaptogenic properties, so it's clear to me that ORMUS is far understudied and understated. A subjective understanding is all we have to work with for the time being.

(09-18-2015 3:04 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Neither of these were mentioned in any studies, nor its adaptogenic properties, so it's clear to me that ORMUS is far understudied and understated. A subjective understanding is all we have to work with for the time being.

Understated? It's claimed to cure everything from AIDs to cancer and correct errors in DNA (whatever that means). Interesting how these miracle cures never claim that they can grow back limbs...

Genuinely hope it's real. If it is I'll be getting on the band wagon late, not willing to risk money on this just yet. Thanks to you and the others for paving the way!

(09-19-2015 12:27 AM)Macro Wrote:  ...
Genuinely hope it's real. If it is I'll be getting on the band wagon late, not willing to risk money on this just yet. Thanks to you and the others for paving the way!

Why not make your own? Plenty of instructions on the web, especially YouTube. Off the top of my head, you need:

1. Dead sea salt
2. Sodium hydroxide
3. Distilled water
4. Digital pH meter
5. Glass containers and stirrers
6. Turkey baster for decanting

Then just follow the instructions in a video of your choice and you'll have ORMUS in 2-3 days' time. This would be The Wet Method by inducing pH shock.

Here's 2 videos I feel comfy with:

(09-19-2015 12:27 AM)Macro Wrote:  ...Interesting how these miracle cures never claim that they can grow back limbs...
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Actually, this has been claimed also - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/tutstail.htm

FWIW.

(09-19-2015 12:35 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  Why not make your own? Plenty of instructions on the web, especially YouTube. Off the top of my head, you need:

(09-19-2015 12:27 AM)Macro Wrote:  ...Interesting how these miracle cures never claim that they can grow back limbs...
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Actually, this has been claimed also - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/tutstail.htm

FWIW.

Thanks for the info mate, but need to make cost - benefit decision based on my perceived risk of the product, and the time/effort doesn't seem worth it at this stage.

Re cats tail.. Wow. Extraordinary beliefs require extraordinary evidence, so I won't believe just a blog post.