(10-08-2015 5:08 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Very few guys would even need to turn to pheromones if they could get someone interested for 10 min! Isn't that the whole point of mones? To get you attraction off the bat within seconds (1-7)?

dsouza

Keep in mind that women's attraction to men is based on more on attitude. Good looks do help, but it is not all. Women cannot gauge attitude within seconds. By thinking that women are as visual as men, you are projecting.

Read this: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/slut-eye/

I'd hate to break this conversation but I just had to pop in and give props to thundr... I messaged him earlier today asking if my recent (2 days old) core was cv2 or cv4... after a few emails it was that I had ordered 2.

this is what he said next *snipped from a longer email*
Thundr:"If you ordered original core by accident and you do not like it, I can send you a cv4 instead."
Heey85:"I would love to try cv4, how can we proceed? my issue is finding time to go up to the post office to return it.. but I can try by this weekend if that is possible?"

ladies and gentleman this was his response...
"No worries on a return. Hang on to the core and see if it works for your natural chemistry.

I'll have a cv4 show up at your door in fury scent early next week.
No charge. Just come back and get more if you like it."

this is how you get a customer for life... with awesome products and awesome communication. I've only had this type of communication and support from John PT and Gary LAL.

I've pm'd him twice with no response. Go figure!!

PM him again. He forgets.

So glad i read this thread.
Question, i have a sample bottle that have 3X. On it. Is that M3X ? Or other test mones from Apex.
Anyone have use that and score ONS ?

(10-08-2015 6:20 PM)rand_user Wrote:  Keep in mind that women's attraction to men is based on more on attitude. Good looks do help, but it is not all. Women cannot gauge attitude within seconds. By thinking that women are as visual as men, you are projecting.

Read this: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/slut-eye/

No, but good looks get your foot in the door.. Just like a great attraction product gets your foot in the door within seconds. Unless i'm on a date no woman is going wait 10 min to be mesmerized by my signal. This would only work if a guy has exceptional social /dating / gaming skills and is not new to dating.

The real test will come soon enough.. My m3x will be arriving today or mon.. I'll give it a whirl Tommorrow if it arrives today and report.

dsouza

(10-09-2015 4:18 AM)Boss Wrote:  
So glad i read this thread.
Question, i have a sample bottle that have 3X. On it. Is that M3X ? Or other test mones from Apex.
Anyone have use that and score ONS ?

M3X is short for Method 3X.

This formula's original name was XXX.

Thundr started shipping samples overseas but quickly realized that he was shipping a bottle of clear liquid marked XXX to foreign countries.

Hence the new name Method 3X AKA M3X.

(10-09-2015 5:37 AM)dsouza Wrote:  No, but good looks get your foot in the door.. Just like a great attraction product gets your foot in the door within seconds. Unless i'm on a date no woman is going wait 10 min to be mesmerized by my signal. This would only work if a guy has exceptional social /dating / gaming skills and is not new to dating.

The real test will come soon enough.. My m3x will be arriving today or mon.. I'll give it a whirl Tommorrow if it arrives today and report.

dsouza

Unless, of course, you have m3x... For the record guys, I've attracted and number closed in less than 60 seconds...FACT! Never done that before.

Dsouza, I notice over the years you get a lot of one on one situations! I envy you in that regard and if I'm personally in those situations... It would be Tooooo easy!!!!

With m3x, though, you should find it just that.... Easy! Or Easier! Because fact is, you're absolutely right. Everyone's game, looks, ARE different, and women do take it into account.

(10-08-2015 6:20 PM)rand_user Wrote:  Keep in mind that women's attraction to men is based on more on attitude. Good looks do help, but it is not all. Women cannot gauge attitude within seconds. By thinking that women are as visual as men, you are projecting.

Read this: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/slut-eye/

Disagree that women are not attracted by the way a man looks. I have been with enough women in pubs and clubs to know that all of them watch a man enter an establishment and make a quick yay or nay decision . I discussed this with women to no end. "How about him". "No"

They can tell a lot by a quick look at you.

Are you confident, walk straight and tall then you are sexy!

Are your clothes not torn and dirty? Do you appear that you can take care of yourself? Women are predisposed to make this judgement of you visually since it's safest.

Unless you look super hot then that's what you got to work with, your first impression. If you fail with the first visual impression then it's your personality/attitude and the help of mones (not a blackjack but help with that first pre meet impression) to turn their first thoughts of you around .

Women love confidence in men and in physical shape and looking sharp. If you can't take care of yourself, how can you take care of them, emotionally, sexually?

If she says otherwise then she is lying to you.

Often they make that impression of you outside mone detection range so walk with your head held high and chest out like you own the world and the rest is easier.

If your loaded then that will show too.

Still loving M3X btw, to get thread back on track. One of Thunders best products. I mix mine with my work oils so won't post results till I try it on it's own again.

M3X works fantastic with A314 so if you have any oil left then try it. Also, M3X does seem to have some longevity to it, all the live long day.

Tip, I often spray alcohol mixes over areas where I spread mone oils on my skin so surely someofmthe product becomes imbedded with the oils hence the longer last.

Best,

FD

My 10 minute timeline is within the context of a conversation that leads to a prolonged and enthusiastic cultural exchange. I normally don't post much specific to my actions so my actual reports on this product are in the test thread. What I've noticed is a tremendous effect over a relatively short period of time. I do not feel that this is an instant attraction product like AM or a long term one like NA. It creates a sense of chemical longing and attraction that can make someone want to be closed by the wearer Much more so then anything else I've ever worn.

What I'm saying is that you can cold approach someone, start an innocent innocuous conversation and then begin to escalate your kino after 4 or 5 minutes and move into her personal space and stay there. I've found passive acceptance more then overwhelming response at this point. 5 to 10 minutes later you can easily initiate a pull and separate her from her group for a bit so you can have a more personal "conversation" then bring her back and hang out with her friends. She will stay with you after they leave and will present the two of you to her friends as a couple.

This is by no means a 100% thing but I am 100% on every gal that has reached that catch and release point (now 5 out of 17) and 5 for 7 on trial nights out (this is out of roughly 60 total approaches) So ratio is 60 => 17 =>. Now out of the roughly 43 crash and burn few of been hilariously funny including one gal who called me pathetic and another who literally yelled out "what type of fucking perv are you, my grandfather is younger then you!?"

Now at this point in my life I am strictly catch and release (well most of the time) so these 5 are limited to serious tonsil exploration and some enthusiastic 2nd base. Only exception is one gal who needed a ride home (I'm not a saint) Ages range from 19 to maybe 35 (17). Of the 5 two were at the local community college (19 & 22), the other 3 were late twenties/early 30's but didn't tell me age and I didn't ask. The 19 year old is the one who needed a ride and actually showed me her student ID since I knew her drivers license was fake.

This is the 1st time I've hesitated to reorder a product, the stuff has brought out the dirty old man in me. What started out as "research" now has me out at the local CW spot every Thursday night dancing with all the coed's and young single things. I've had tons of success without mones but I'm 57 and am having better "luck" then I did when I was 40 and actually trying...