Glace seems to be having a negative self effect on me. I didn't really notice it as much, but when I stopped using it for almost a week and used it again today, I could tell the difference. I get the same effect when I use Instant Shine from Androtics.

It lowers my confidence and makes me more aware of the negative things about myself. Basically, I feel fat and ugly when I wear it.

Has anyone else ever had this effect before? I was thinking that this negative self effect may be due to the Beta-androstanol. I believe both Instant Shine and Glace contain it.

(01-11-2012 12:31 PM)js8166 Wrote:  Glace seems to be having a negative self effect on me. I didn't really notice it as much, but when I stopped using it for almost a week and used it again today, I could tell the difference. I get the same effect when I use Instant Shine from Androtics.

It lowers my confidence and makes me more aware of the negative things about myself. Basically, I feel fat and ugly when I wear it.

Has anyone else ever had this effect before? I was thinking that this negative self effect may be due to the Beta-androstanol. I believe both Instant Shine and Glace contain it.

Hi Pilot

i had some kinda Androstadienone depressions when i used high amounts of this molecule ...

I don´t feel fat and ugly when i wear it ... but i feel not very confident with it on .. there have to be some uplifting stuff added ..

you think that this could be in Instant Shine ... that´s interesting !!

Pago

(01-11-2012 12:36 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  you think that this could be in Instant Shine ... that´s interesting !!

Isn't beta-androstanol TAA? TAA has been confirmed to be the base of Instant Shine.

TAA is the base of Instant Shine, but it's very unlikely that TAA = beta-androstanol. Effects are quite different.

dbot, I think when I was looking into TAA, you had said you thought DHEA might be TAA, but then I thought I saw you say (later?) that 5,16 androstadienol might be TAA too. Any more thoughts on that? I've not yet tried any of them.

I'm thinking it is possible that AD uses more than one molecule in these mystery putatives.. They could be testing the synergy of 2+ things. If this were true, certain things like the brightness of lights reports makes me think DHEA or related molecules might be mixed with one of the THDOCs (reports of changes WRT physical distance).

5,16 dienol is very TAA-like. A really nice molecule. It's been a while since I tried DHEA solo. Need to get back to it at some point.

Do you have any other products other than Glace? You can try wearing products that contain primarily nols in it and see if you get the same effects, and then pinpoint which molecule you are sensitive to.

Mixes with heavy B-nol makes me question myself as well, and I feel withdrawn and do not like to talk much.

I have Glace and every product in Androtic's Instant line. I wore Instant Openness Monday and Tuesday with good results. Are you saying I should try Instant Honesty and see if I get the same negative effects?

(01-12-2012 10:34 AM)js8166 Wrote:  I have Glace and every product in Androtic's Instant line. I wore Instant Openness Monday and Tuesday with good results. Are you saying I should try Instant Honesty and see if I get the same negative effects?

I read that Instant Honesty is 70% beta androstenol + 30% alpha androstenol (and nothing else?)

then Instant Openness is reversed, 70% alpha androstenol + 30% beta androstenol

Tisha says Instant Shine is TAA and 2 other things (maybe -enols, and like others said Glace has lots of these, but other stuff too).

(01-12-2012 1:11 AM)dbot Wrote:  5,16 dienol is very TAA-like. A really nice molecule. It's been a while since I tried DHEA solo. Need to get back to it at some point.

I read now Nbully saying convincingly, but with no justification besides reading a tacitus post, that TAA is alpha-androstadienol and that TAC is beta androstadienol. Pago said TAC isn't b-ienol in that thread though.

Can your 5,16 be called "alpha androstadienol"? It's all quite confusing, I know I read Chris say there is a whole bunch of androstadienols.

i actually felt depressed from glace, that is why i stopped using it.

"why do i feel so sad?" after washing glace off, i suddenly felt lighter and happier in 10 minutes.