(12-21-2018 8:19 AM)MacCauley Wrote:  I've tried every method, and a pre-scented product wins every time. It simply projects stronger and further, the effects are more pronounced. Both sandalwood musk and leather & steel are great scents, so it's a no brainer for me. Next time I order NA, I will get it in Wolf or BW scent to see how that works.

I definitely agree with you about pre-scented products working better then unscented, as I believe the scent helps to diffuse the 'mones much farther than using unscented with a cover. The only reason I would get unscented phero product is if I don't like none of the scent options offered. I would definitely like to know how well NA performs for you when you get it scented. Please keep us posted...

I might take a while, but I'll keep you posted, D.

(12-21-2018 6:02 AM)MacCauley Wrote:  I use AM nos at 2 sprays. Very moderate intimidation, if any. The hotter the girl and it hits stronger. The last bottle I bought was scented and its definitely more powerful than unscented. Safe to say it's close enough to the old stuff. AM is the only product I have where women start smiling before they even look at me within a certain radius. Strong VIP and attraction with very uplifting alpha self effects up to 6 hours. No negatives thus far. I'll place it 3rd in my top 5 after BW and NA.

2 sprays even in daytime?

VIP and attraction is good but how sexual was it? Ever score (any degree) with the NOS? Curious.

Also how bad was the shit testing from Amogs? I get the impression due to alcohol carrier AM NOS is more IYF.

Yes, always 2 sprays. 1 is too weak imo.

Only with the gf. I can't say I see much difference in her, but she's almost immune to mones anyway. The effect on myself is undeniable, makes me more raw.

Can't say I've seen much shit testing, but I mostly use it at the gym where I'm in my own zone anyways. Friends and family respond well. Only problem is my brother who gets bitchy whenever I go high none.

Don't mean to derail but had a question. In a trade, I obtained an old bottle of AM. It doesn't have the metal lion but a sticker instead. The liquid has a thick gel floating around in it that settles to the top if i don't shake it. It's a rusty amber color? (I'm Color blind). The bottom part is clear and the color floats to the top. Anyone have any idea what type of AM this is? I transferred it into an old bottle with the metal lion cause i think it looks much better.

I think you got the batch that came out after the Androstenone change that most members were complaining about not being the same as the original formula. It it also with a silicone base. I had the silicone base LIIK v1 batch that came out during that time as well, and mine used to do the same thing. Not as effective as the vintage (pre-hedione) version. But I hear the new NOS versions are somewhere near as effective as the vintage batches.

(01-18-2019 12:40 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  I think you got the batch that came out after the Androstenone change that most members were complaining about not being the same as the original formula. It it also with a silicone base. I had the silicone base LIIK v1 batch that came out during that time as well, and mine used to do the same thing. Not as effective as the vintage (pre-hedione) version. But I hear the new NOS versions are somewhere near as effective as the vintage batches.

Thanks DSS!

Thats sad news i haven't really ran it yet besides once at 2 sprays in a club and didn't see much. I'll try it a few more times before i consider a new bottle.

As I remember it the metal lion came with the silicone changes. Since you didn't bring up the bottle size I take that as you got the 36ml. The hedione bottles were 50ml if I'm not mistaken. Clearly you got it Black Spice scented so here's my theory. A site called pheromonediscount sold fake AM claiming it was from 2014, exclusively in Black Spice scent. I bet that's what you've got. I had a bottle and it was bullshit. The color doesn't float on top inside real AM bottles. Or the trader put something else in there. Very few people would trade vintage AM.

(01-18-2019 1:04 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  As I remember it the metal lion came with the silicone changes. Since you didn't bring up the bottle size I take that as you got the 36ml. The hedione bottles were 50ml if I'm not mistaken. Clearly you got it Black Spice scented so here's my theory. A site called pheromonediscount sold fake AM claiming it was from 2014, exclusively in Black Spice scent. I bet that's what you've got. I had a bottle and it was bullshit. The color doesn't float on top inside real AM bottles. Or the trader put something else in there. Very few people would trade vintage AM.

Its the standard 36ml all the color does float to the top and the lower liquid stays clear. and it smells very strong on the mones. When i got it it just had the sticker of a lion before i pored it into the new bottle. I'll try and upload some pics in a bit

(01-18-2019 1:04 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  The hedione bottles were 50ml if I'm not mistaken.

Actually, it was the batches after hedione was taken out of the formula that were being offered in 50 ml, as a way to make up for the hedione mistake. The hedione addition to the formulas proved to be a fatal mistake, as it made AM and LIIK formulas highly ineffective.