i think that the problem with the Gel is overdose/buildup, you need very little of it (i go with 2-4 tiny round bubbles, this is about 1/3-1/4 pump) - it spreads very wide and None smell is more notable (more than with NA Oil), it's smell is more sharp (better Androstenone/diffusion?), if used too much i have a headache very fast.

i am still testing them both, but for me Gel is superior in these areas:

* smell - unscented Oil stinks like a piss after a few hours sometimes.
* easier to use - covers a bit more skin with the same amount.
* longer duration (i smell it longer).

how does NA affects girls? i do not know the Oil and Gel differences in this area, but i got something out of the baselines from both (combining with A-1 or PSX96 mostly).

i like both, but if i have to choose - i am taking with the NA GEL

I have a hard time getting even a 1/3 of a pump out.

This isn't the first time I've heard of people pairing NA with Androstadienone to make it less creepy and more alpha. Where and how do you apply the mix ?

(08-08-2016 7:37 AM)raikahoken Wrote:  I use the gel in very warm weather and it works very well for me. LAL also tests their products mainly in Hawaii which is on the equator.

Interesting ... maybe humidity plays a role as well ?

I noticed lately that the self effects, more specifically the emotional aspect, his me faster/ harder with the oil.
I own both gel and oil by the way.

(08-08-2016 2:50 AM)jb20 Wrote:  .First report about NA gel is from fish dude and he lives in Canada(cold as fook).

yes.... we live in igloos year round

(08-08-2016 7:58 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  yes.... we live in igloos year round