If anyone needs more info, please pm me so we don't hijack the thread. Thanks!

(09-15-2015 6:49 PM)theLaw Wrote:  If anyone needs more info, please pm me so we don't hijack the thread. Thanks!

I've just ordered Pansterone tonight.. 2 bottles.. Can't wait!!

dsouza

(09-15-2015 6:49 PM)theLaw Wrote:  If anyone needs more info, please pm me so we don't hijack the thread. Thanks!

I'm very interested; but it would be so cool if you started a separate thread, and explained what you noticed each of the below did for you, LawMan.

Mucho thanks!

(09-15-2015 4:59 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Hey Dsouza,

Just a couple of suggestions that worked for me:

1- more sea salt...........yes, it sounds crazy, but it works (I take 2 tbsp per day)

2- eggshell calcium - just wash and then bake them for 30min + grind up and eat

3- Sugar is not the issue, it's PUFAs (check out Ray Peat's forum for more info)

4- With every workout you are creating stress which raises Cortisol blocking Test.-try reducing stress with protein + sugar, or good fats (MCT oil) if you prefer no sugar approach + also add raw carrot on empty stomach twice a day ( simple but highly effective to restore gut health)

5- Pansterone - balances hormone levels - Shockingly effective for raised Cortisol - you will be hearing more about this supplement in the next few years - it's delivered transdermally w DMSO + keeps your dick from turtling - after using this my dick gets harder than when I used Viagra w/zero side effects - check out : https://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewt...f=3&t=7426 for more info

Good luck!

ANOTHER MASSIVE BONER SURVEY! 8====D~~~~~

Ok, so I've done a similar survey of responses over at Pherotalk to the one here. My search terms were "boner", "erection", "erectile" and "morning wood". These generated around 800 results, which I narrowed down to 85 which were directly relevant to our research topic

I'm not going to link to every individual report like I did earlier in this thread, but here is the summary of the results.

Copulins:
- Multiple reports showing that copulins worn by women promote male erections, and also men wearing them alone generally get similar effects.
- A couple of reports suggest that when women wear androstenone and copulins that produces stronger results than either alone.

Androstadienone
Androstadienone again causes negative results.

TAC
TAC again produces mixed results, with some users benefiting, some experiencing detriment.

Androstenone & Androstenone containing products
Ammo generally produced positive erectile responses and so did Turn Up The Heat (lots of users reported this). However, with Turn Up The Heat some users reported that the effects wore off or became negative with time (build up?). Some users reported androstenone was good, but it is unclear whether they decided this on the basis of single-molecule trials are inferring from products that contained it as a major ingredient.

Est
A few reports suggested it was bad.

Meo-None
(NOTE – there is more than one Meo! There is meo-nol and meo-none)
Most users reported positive responses from Meo-None (in contrast to this forum) but some were negative.

Instant Honesty
One report of consistent negative effects. Could this be disinhibition from Beta Androstenol bringing out performance anxiety in certain susceptible individuals – similar to TAC?

P75
4 reports. 3 positive one neutral (the latter in combo with P81)
This is a putative that reports have suggested is an anxiety killer and gives huge confidence (but also emotional insensitivity).

P81
Generally good results, but some neutral.

P83
Good results. Interesting because this is reputed to be a disinhibitor too, albeit one with a mild mood boosting effect.

P77
good (including in combination with TAF).

P96
Good for mood, but causes lack of interest in sex. Could this be due to boosting serotonin?


I now intend to do a similar survey over at Love Scent.

(09-15-2015 8:16 PM)dsouza Wrote:  I've just ordered Pansterone tonight.. 2 bottles.. Can't wait!!

dsouza

Would you post the link to the ordering page....couldn't find it?

(09-16-2015 4:53 PM)DWR Wrote:  Would you post the link to the ordering page....couldn't find it?

http://haidut.dyndns.org/idealabs/

Order Pansterone.

dsouza

(09-16-2015 4:58 PM)dsouza Wrote:  http://haidut.dyndns.org/idealabs/

Order Pansterone.

dsouza

Just a heads-up to everyone ordering, this guy is a one-man show, so it may take a couple of weeks for it to arrive. Check your paypal account for shipping info.

Enjoy!

Thoughts on Alfa Machismo...

I got my AM through yesterday and did a very brief initial test with one spray (worn for about an hour, then washing it off). I noticed mild clustering of women at the bus stop. No noticable psychological self-effects. The only unusual thing that happened was that I woke up at around 4am that night with a 100% hard erection. Interesting!

I am, however, thinking this is not due to pheromonal effects, it seems more likely due to absorption. AM contains DHEA. DHEA can be absorbed through the skin http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11252535/ also DHEA administration has been shown to improve erectile function http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/115...89/related

The unfortunate kicker is that transdermal (and perhaps oral) administration of DHEA suppresses your body's own production. This could *potentially* cause problems down the line. I'm going to keep digging.

Nevertheless, I'm currently wearing two sprays. I wonder what will happen tonight.

Inconclusive results from my AM experiment last night. I wore two sprays to my chest for about three hours- so longer in amount and duration compared to yesterday. Again no noticable self effects. Again potential clustering of women at the bus stop/on the bus itself.

Washed off the AM at gym then returned home to bed. Woke up in the night, no erection. In the morning my erectile function was ok , but no full morning wood. Function was about 7 out of 10 in terms of positive erectile response to sexy thoughts, but no rod of steel.

A couple of updates...

Abstaining from GOA and Xist had a noticeable positive impact on both libido and erectile quality for me. Now this might be as much the use of either BW or AT in combination with either DP or SOB but I do feel that for me repeated exposure to GOA and Zist on a daily basis had a detrimental effect on both libido and erectile function.

Ordered Pansterone on a Thurs night and it shipped on Friday and I had it Monday. I've been using it for a few days now and the stuff works. Noticeable improvement in skin and hair and woke up with raging morning wood this morning...meaning 16 year old caliber. However, Pansterone does spike my blook pressure by roughly 10 points pushing me up into the 140 over 85 range. I'll need to read some more on what that implies and continue to monitor but again noticeable improvement in both libido and erections to the point I need to be careful, a few raging boners in inappropriate circumstances...