(11-11-2013 3:43 PM)scorpio69 Wrote:  It's a shame that companies fuck up their flagship products and don't have the balls to admit that there has been a change in formula in order to keep sales up. Same with Androtics and A314. By the way I heard MAG is supposed to have the same formula as AM. Maybe someone can chime in here.

Why is that happening?I can think of 2 scenarios:
1.They are using illegal or dangerous chemicals and were forced to remove them.Admitting that would be more dangerous to their business than the drop in sales by us finding that they have worsen the formula.
2.The CIA factor
If something works too well in that aspect, then it should be in their interests to prohibit it.

I believe it's mostly the first one.

(11-12-2013 4:41 AM)stefdude Wrote:  Why is that happening?I can think of 2 scenarios:
1.They are using illegal or dangerous chemicals and were forced to remove them.Admitting that would be more dangerous to their business than the drop in sales by us finding that they have worsen the formula.
2.The CIA factor
If something works too well in that aspect, then it should be in their interests to prohibit it.

I believe it's mostly the first one.

Yes, probably. Another reason might be that certain "ingredients" of the formula are just too expensive and/or hard to obtain. Thus leading to less profit for the company in the long run.

How about posting verified facts or at least some reasoning behind conclusions instead of making SHIT up.

(11-12-2013 2:53 AM)ZB pmones Wrote:  Thanks for this tip...was going to get AM to try in the clubs but have two bottles of MAG sitting in my fridge doing nothing. Cheers.

I assume you have the new MAG? Don't let that deter you from considering AM. The reformulation is watered-down snake oil compared to its predecessor. AM is the same formula as the old MAG, the one that actually worked.

Agreed Pheroman. Assumptions will get us nowhere. Considering none of us know, or can know the details surrounding the reformulation, this discussion is entirely pointless. Moving on now...

(11-12-2013 6:00 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  How about posting verified facts or at least some reasoning behind conclusions instead of making SHIT up.

Correct me if I'm wrong big man but you were among the first who tested and said that New Pheromone Additive formula may have changed.Them not admitting it makes a reason for the consumers to be curious about their behaviour.Correct?

How the hell could I know facts about that matter.Did I offer my SHIT for truth?I said what scenarios "I can think" aka my little brains opinion.A humble one as I am not aware of the companies' history and I'm new to the pheromones.A noob to shout at right?

Profit (gain, loss) is enough reason its own, pretty self-evident.Thanks for your deconstructive post and sorry for stepping on your grass.

(11-12-2013 6:15 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Agreed Pheroman. Assumptions will get us nowhere. Considering none of us know, or can know the details surrounding the reformulation, this discussion is entirely pointless. Moving on now...

Actually I've asked a known manufacturer and he said he will comment about that.I assume he'll give me more than assumptions.

I too, would like some answers, on an obvious change in formula. But they insist it hasn't changed, so there's really nothing I can do but try and find a pheromone that would get me the hits like the old MAG. I read some threads about AM, But the hits don't seem like the over-the-top blatant ones I would get with MAG.
You know how pheromones do about 20 - 30% of the work? The old MAG was doing at least 50% in attracting women! IMO! It was like what most experts say pheromones DON'T do... In that, the women would be all over you! Well, maybe not physically, but they will stare you down in such a flirtatious, uncontrollable manner... Closes thing to an Axe commercial! BLATANT, BLATANT, BLATANT!!
Like I've said before, I have such a wonderful collection of pheromones... And NONE have given the most blatant of hits than that old MAG. (for me anyways)
I stand by it to this day... Those guys were ON to something! MAG is what made me a believer in pheromones! BLATANT is what made me a believer in pheromones!
For this reason, I've been looking for something close to that. So you see why it can be hard to put it to rest... But what can we do... Smh

(11-12-2013 1:46 PM)V-nice Wrote:  I too, would like some answers, on an obvious change in formula. But they insist it hasn't changed, so there's really nothing I can do but try and find a pheromone that would get me the hits like the old MAG. I read some threads about AM, But the hits don't seem like the over-the-top blatant ones I would get with MAG.

I too have been trying to find something similar to old formula but have not had too much luck.
I have AM and although it is good, it isn't anyway near as potent as the old MAG. The strange thing is that old formula of MAG said it had 17.8mg of pheromones, however the new version says it has 19mg of pheromones. So even though they say nothing has changed, they have changed the amount of pheromones that they say is contained in it.

(11-12-2013 3:13 PM)jamiep Wrote:  I too have been trying to find something similar to old formula but have not had too much luck.
I have AM and although it is good, it isn't anyway near as potent as the old MAG. The strange thing is that old formula of MAG said it had 17.8mg of pheromones, however the new version says it has 19mg of pheromones. So even though they say nothing has changed, they have changed the amount of pheromones that they say is contained in it.

Sounds logical to replace the removed ingredient with a combo of the usual ones.That could explain it, assuming this is the case.