(04-15-2012 1:56 PM)jvkohl Wrote:  Interactions with astute observers like Beccah encourage me to include more information about the effect of alcohol on gondadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH), which is also responsible for the effects of pheromones on behavior. If, as may be the case with her alcohol consumption, the effect of an androstenol/androsterone mix on GnRH and on luteinizing hormone (LH) are compromised by alcohol ingestion, so might be the resultant affect on behavior of an androstenol/androsterone mix.

Other works have shown an initial effect of alcohol on LH increase, which would predict that added effects of androstenol on LH might be negative (leading to headaches) as would overexposure to high concentrations of androstenol, vanilla, or saffron alone. For that matter, your grandmother's perfume, when applied in excessive amounts because she is gradually losing her sense of smell with age, may give you a headache -- as it does with those who encounter her in an elevator and also become nauseated.

However, the same initial effect of androstenol and alcohol on LH and testosterone is probably what's enhancing the visual appeal of those who are using pheromone-enhanced fragrance products containing the "right" amount of androstenol in the correct mixture. The "right" amount, however, cannot be determined for those who are already activating their LH response via other exposure(s) to systemic effects of chemicals, whether they are inhaled or ingested.

If only I could rely on Beccah, or someone like her, for product promotion and follow-up on concerns for proper usage, my product sales would soar. Most of what I have conveyed in technical terms in published works, can be simply stated by those, like her, who have observed how nutrition (linked to food odors) and behavioral interactions (linked to social odors/pheromones) work in combination to determine behavior. But if she decides to market a competing product, I will deny that I said this

Bwahahaha! No worries there, I have enough trouble fighting the good fight against the family's dirty laundry output. I think learning chemistry & starting a competing pheromone business would be beyond my capabilities, especially with competent, affordable formulators (such as yourself) already in the market place. Thank you for putting research into this avenue of thought.

Every time I have ever Oded there has been alcohol involved so I believe that.

FTR my first example was sober, second a couple glasses of good red wine, both coffee lovers.

(04-16-2012 4:23 AM)Pheroman Wrote:  FTR my first example was sober, second a couple glasses of good red wine, both coffee lovers.

I like the fact that no one seems to be combining pheromone enhancement with that of illicit recreational drugs. Please, don't let anyone spoil this vision for me.