(05-20-2014 9:02 PM)V-nice Wrote:  Yeah, they both can produce some pretty good hits. It's a close call. I like the way women(strangers) are comfortable enough to start a convo with me with L2k. With Taboo, they WANT to start a convo but kind of linger around and wait for you to break the ice.
Taboo is indeed an ioi generator.
I've gotten plenty of Ioi's with both. I don't think you can lose with which ever you choose.

I've literally had women look at me like I was a Salisbury steak for lunch wearing L2k v1. Even though I've had some pretty good blatant hits with Taboo itself!

It all takes testing to draw more conclusions...

I get the feeling with l2k v1 women want to rape you with taboo women want you to come on / open them.. In both cases they're attracted.

L2k ioi's of rape, lust, taboo IOIs of INTRIGUE sex appeal.

l2k better for ONS with bisexuals, lesbians, strippers, models etc IMO, taboo better for SEDUCTION. With taboo less INTERRUPTION (women don't open you etc) other men don't open you etc so you can carry out the seduction.. WIth l2k women open you and men are chummy, l2k more a product for the orgy, esp in a nightclub....
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This is an interesting thread.
Just received l2k v1 today and quite impressed from 1st day of testing. I'm still new and hope that sharing my experiences would help everyone here in a way.

Tested Taboo the past 3 weeks and now excited to test l2k v1.
Initial observations (more testing with l2k needed though):

Initial thoughts - taboo's self effects hit full on after spraying. Relaxed yet kinda *underlying alpha/aggression(?) together keeping it balanced. ( I get road rage and sulky ready to strike aggression with AV or NA)

Self effects - taboo's social self effects feels less "smooth" than l2k. It takes a bit more effort to initiate convos after that talking flows. Day 1 of l2k: feels calm, smooth confidence, socials feel naturally easier, lighter than taboo. Self smiling lots more with l2k. More testing needed.

Range - Taboo seems longer ranged? Went to McDonalds café, the counter girl (14-15?) eye-ball stalked me all the way from entry to the café queue. About 2 metres between us. Long line at the café section. She stares a bit more then calls me cross over to serve me. Other customers weren't impressed lol My l2k hits today were close range < 1 metre. More testing!

Target range - Taboo really varies. Oldest was a 30s lady with husband. I walked past and she flicked her head up to watch me. Youngest were 2 sisters (14 and 9ish?) they would stop everything, silently STARE at me, big eyes without blinking. Is that what you guys call "deer in headlights? lol Kinda freaky taboo-ic effect!
L2k seems to hit more consistent after 2 hours, older girls 20s+, 30+. Youngest was a black teen.

Onward, more adventures and testing!

(05-18-2014 11:41 AM)piper23 Wrote:  I wouldn't say that L2K is far superior to Taboo. I think both have their uses depending on the situation you are faced with.
for example I prefer L2K v2 if I am going to be in a one on one situation such as a date or small group setting where I plan on being for a while and not moving around. This is where L2k shines for me because over time as it morphs then if you have been playing your cards right then closing should be easy especially with the older or sexually comfortable women (age 26 +). I like using Taboo because I find it attracts all age range and it has more reach distance wise when I apply (I find it very useful in bars) where I am trying to hit multiple targets. I cant vouch for Taboo closing because I have never tried closing while wearing it, but I can say that I have used it to number close and have had females approached me while wearing taboo leave there number with me. From my experience both are solid products but I find taboo has a wider target audience in comparison to l2k v2. to be fair to l2k, it has hit a few younger females but consistently its effective on the older females. I have worn them both at the same time and have some wonderful results.

I am 34

Ok folks , YES , after a 2 month abstinence from l2k v1 I went out with it! And NOT with TAA in the mix.. My bottle of TAA is still awaiting shipping from Androtics a week after ordering it.. smh

Anyways back to the topic! I have been wearing taboo out and about and realize something. Taboo is great for the pickup, l2k better for the date and scoring. Although taboo can be used for dating too you'll probably score easier with l2k v1 as it morphs and turns sexual and makes me a horny MOFO ..

The taboo-ic effect had me getting looked at by 10 year old, married women etc. It also had me in control of my hormones even at 2 sprays. The range is great 10 feet + and I feel you can have conversations with women and women are comfortable with you even in places they'd least likely be comfortable-- like a shop.

Wearing l2k v1 today at 1 spray L&S I felt relaxed, then after 1.5 hrs more seductive, then after a total ontime of 3+ hrs a little AGGRESSIVE. It was the social buffers wearing off. Now at 5 hrs in I have no depression (its been a long time since I've used the product) and I am horny as hell. I don't feel like making love I feel like fucking.

Also I was kinda down today that I didn't get looks from the young girls at the coffee shop when it dawned on me later on that l2k v1 hits 20-35 y.o.s and not teens. I am so used to Taboo! It makes me relax now knowing that it is perfectly normal that hits come from 20-35 y.o.'s

At 5 hrs in I feel a little anxious but if you notice my mind is working better.. It is reflected in the composition of this message.. My grammar and writing style is much better with l2k v1 on than with other mones or no mones.

I noticed this trend when I read the l2k v1 thread and re-read my reviews. My grammar and writing style was like another dsouza. But alas, it was me all along.

In Summary, for general out and about, and pickup taboo has GREAT range and hits a wide age range , cultures, and keeps you seductive and flirtatious without succumbing to ridiculous horniness unlike l2k.

L2k great for the DATE after the pickup when a woman decided to go out with you.. It will be EASIER to score because your aggression will be higher.. Good type of aggression not violent but motivated and horny.

I can see now why l2k v1 is great in a ONS situation as it morphs over the entire evening/night. Whereas, taboo doesn't.. You're left seducing and sometimes seduction results in physical and sometimes it doesn't.. But with l2k v1 on you 'll push more for intimacy as the night progress as you'll get hornier.. At least I do.. Maybe it the none creeping up on ME as well as the woman that makes me feel the urge to come on to her with no hesitation?

Overall l2k can also be used for the pickup but keep in mind that the range is much less.. You want to be within 4 feet or so of your target.. Women from a distance don't even notice you.

Now I am left at a crossroads.. Do I keep l2k v1 and not add taa and just use it 1-2 x week and cross my finger the original formula will not result in depression?

Or do I add the taa in and realize it may become too social a mix and take away from sexual results?

P.S AD says l2k has molecule A in it.. Isn't that TAA? So I guess he's got the happy feeling already placed in it.. albeit in much smaller amounts.

This is my l2k v1 post. As for hits.. A 20 something woman in scantily clad shorts dancing her butt around the chair for 90 seconds shaking it up. I was so in awe of the demonstration I just froze

P.P.S It is now 6 hrs post app and I can strongly smell the L&S scent from 1 spray.. OMG! Even with Acqua Di Gio the strong scent smell is gone from my detection after 60 min - 2 hrs.. But l&S just lingers... I can only imagine people who put 2 or 3 sprays.. That must be cologne overkill!

TAA is a fast acting, and fast diffusing molecule.
I can see why it would be a changing mix, if the TAA leaves faster than the other 'mones.

IF TAA is in it, you could probably add some more later, to bring the levels back up to where they were, but other 'mones may have dissipated by then too.

(05-22-2014 5:54 PM)dexter Wrote:  TAA is a fast acting, and fast diffusing molecule.
I can see why it would be a changing mix, if the TAA leaves faster than the other 'mones.

IF TAA is in it, you could probably add some more later, to bring the levels back up to where they were, but other 'mones may have dissipated by then too.

I don't know if you read "examine's" l2k/taa thread in AD section but he advises mixing a togo bottle of taa into the l2k v1 formula bottle for even distribution throughout the night as the taa binds to the mix!

Cheers
dsouza

Taa and molecule A are not the same my friend. You should mix both of them because you might not feel it now but that depression hits like a freight train. Not worth the risk, since you already know how bad it is when it hits

I'd like to make a comment about "status" and each of these products taboo and l2k.

Neither innately has a lot of status.. At least I don't think so .. Nothing compared to a314 , wolf, AV etc.

However, status is also a quality that is earned and valued as people see your character developing.. that I think Is taboo. As people see little kids, married women, people of all nationalities , women, men, etc paying attention to you ,you get almost the vibe of the good character man. I.e. how could so many people be intrigued by you and pay attention to you if you were a prick?

With l2k status comes from attracting hot to trot women.. L2k attracts the hottest women like AM. Also status comes from being seen with beauties OPENING you. Why are models after this guy people think? You must be a man of value for bombshells to open you. Its not just ugly girls horny and looking for sex but 10/10's feeling your worth speaking to.

Neither of these two mones is traditional status like a314 status.. The rich wealthy guy.

Its a status based on character (taboo) and who opens you and is hot to trot (l2k) ..

Good news is my taa is arriving mon.. SO i'll mix it up and head out with it on Wed... I will see what l2k v1 taa is all about.

[edit] Thurs May 29
Looks like l2k v1 taa was a flop in the sexual sense.. Just too much of a feel happy shiny social vibe.. Ended up talking 7 hrs later for hrs instead of having sex that night at all (and sex was PLANNED). Took Cialis and everything.. Still the mood boost from taa destroyed any sexual element in l2k.

I am going to resort to using l2k v1 (and Androstadienone products in general) by itself but SPARINGLY. Like 1-2 x week with lots of soap scrubbing between applications...

(05-19-2014 4:45 AM)piper23 Wrote:  Keep in mind this is my opinion based on my observation. This doesn't make the product less effective. With all products it boils down your needs. Think of it like golfing, you have your drivers, irons, wood and ect.... You use each based on the situation you're in. I hope someone else chime in. I am not a fan bashing products because they all work in varying ways.

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Great so the conclusion is taboo for out and about, long range situations., bar pickups, etc, l2k for close quarter dates, gatherings in groups, little movement/distance during the date or gathering.

Taboo for short duration interactions or even longer duration, l2k for ONLY longer as to get maximum benefit it is to morph over many hrs.

DONE DEAL.

Has anyone considered Taboo first then add a little bit of New Pheromone Additive later on?

With this combo, is it possible to get the advantage of long range while still be able to control your horny-ness and not worry about your mones changing over time? Then when you want to change the interaction to more sexual, just add a few dabs of New Pheromone Additive in the restroom and there you have it. I don't think you will still get the benefit of women opening you like L2K does though.

(06-03-2014 1:24 AM)Krazyzer0 Wrote:  Has anyone considered Taboo first then add a little bit of New Pheromone Additive later on?

With this combo, is it possible to get the advantage of long range while still be able to control your horny-ness and not worry about your mones changing over time? Then when you want to change the interaction to more sexual, just add a few dabs of New Pheromone Additive in the restroom and there you have it. I don't think you will still get the benefit of women opening you like L2K does though.

That is very plausible.. why don't you try it and let us know how it pans out?? I don't have New Pheromone Additive but use primitive by lal.

I tried 2 taboo 1 primitive and OD'ed with the equivalent of 30 mcg none... too much.. I don't know if 1 spray taboo then 1 drop primitive would of made a better change.

Some women will have sex if they're horny and not in love but almost all women will have sex if they're in love.. So even with taboo if you use it over several dates I don't see a problem getting sex.. Most studies say 2 sprays!