(10-24-2015 10:31 PM)Eduardo Wrote:  I have to add I wore AM just 5 or 6 times, L2k w hedione about a month, not everyday but every 2 or 3 days with not so much success (I didn't see more iois or kino with this on than without mones, just friendliness. The original L2k however I'm wearing for a couple of months now with great success. For me its better than AM cause with AM on I have the urge to pick up, or "search" for girls. With L2k Im laid back which I naturally am, no agression at all, no urge totalk to girls. I feel like Im a very attractive guy, and I am, cause so many girls show their attraction. For example in the club, I don't have to do anything, Im just sitting there with friends or walk across the club and either I get smiles from nearly every girl in myproximit. I get opened a lot in the club. When I first heard about pheromones I thought they have this Axe commercial effect and I think L2k is the closest to these commercials for me. Again, I have not much experience with mones cause I tested only about 10 and own 7 of them myself. But L2k is my top mone out of these if we are talking about attracting girls: L2k, Xist, Evolve, Cohesion, Taboo, Wolf and Escape the Friend Zone (which I got last week and tested only once) Xist is more "love feeling" than L2k but I repeat I slept with a couple of girls with)L2k on amnd a lot of them became very clingy and wanted me to go out with them, a few told me they wanted to be my girlfriend. Maybe Im a too good guy, so I come off as the perfect boyfriend and it hasn't to do anything with L2k.

My experience with l2k is similar to yours in terms of all I do is go to a vicinity with lots of women and walk around smiling or maintaining eye contact and I get opened. Its very RELAXING on the mind isn't it? Almost like your chilled. And I find as I talk to one woman others in vicinity see this and then they also open me. I think this is amazing because we are creating the jealousy or intrigue effect where women compete for your attn.. When women compete your status goes through the roof.. I mean its like being a celebrity.. I find if i'm in a room with many women close by some girls will say hi, some will talk a lot, some will stare, some will boob...some will wink... some will get jealous of others , some won't. But I find the whole time I do virtually nothing to close.. That is my problem... its hard for me to close because I am so in the moment that I can't plan out a seduction. I am interrupted by women with all kinda subjects I get taken off my path to LEAD as a man to where I want to go..it's also like as i'm working on one girl another will interrupt so my seduction gets screwed. I don't get angry when this happens like with AM just that I feel more like a celebrity than a closer.

Anyways women are supposed to seduce you but you also have to escalate their seduction if you want anything to happen. This is where I find l2k shining after 3.5 hrs.. In the first 3.5 hrs I get less self effects from it and also gay hits.

With AM It's easier to take the lead because of the intimidation factor.. Women are turned on, come sit near me etc and I have this need to close or pickup.. I can think out my seduction and have a gameplan to get the #.. I don't get any gay hits.. I get a lot of respect. Women are more restrained and less likely to interrupt me before I bring up my convo. So with AM if you have great game you can lead things.

I detail my experiences with these products in the AD section...

One other difference... I find l2k attracts a lot of young women to me.. I'm talking creepy young like even 16 y,o opening me. But I get attraction from women right into 45-50 y.o. AM mostly 19 to 40. And AM makes me horny more than l2k. WIth AM the horny part comes from increased test from being aggressive. With l2k the horniness comes from seeing the hottest scantily clad slutty women flirting with me... it makes my mind think all dirty and lusty and my libido increases..

I think l2k may be indeed the superior product. Did you use it solo to close? How many sprays?

dsouza

(10-25-2015 2:08 AM)dsouza Wrote:  My experience with l2k is similar to yours in terms of all I do is go to a vicinity with lots of women and walk around smiling or maintaining eye contact and I get opened. Its very RELAXING on the mind isn't it? Almost like your chilled. And I find as I talk to one woman others in vicinity see this and then they also open me. I think this is amazing because we are creating the jealousy or intrigue effect where women compete for your attn.. When women compete your status goes through the roof.. I mean its like being a celebrity.. I find if i'm in a room with many women close by some girls will say hi, some will talk a lot, some will stare, some will boob... some will get jealous of others , some won't. But I find the whole time I do virtually nothing to close.. That is my problem... its hard for me to close because I am so in the moment that I can't plan out a seduction. I am interrupted by women with all kinda subjects I get taken off my path to LEAD as a man to where I want to go.. It's like trying to remember something while someone is jabbing you with a little pin.. It's difficult to do this.. Its easier to focus on the pin and deal with it!!

Anyways women are supposed to seduce you but you also have to take the lead if you want anything to happen. This is where I find l2k shining after 3.5 hrs.. In the first 3.5 hrs I get less self effects and gay hits.

With AM It's easier to take the lead because of the intimidation factor.. Women are turned on, come sit near me etc and I have this need to close or pickup.. I can think out my seduction and have a gameplan to get the #.. I don't get any gay hits.. I get a lot of respect.

I detail my experiences with these products in the AD section...


dsouza

Exactly, how I said before, its like in those axe commercials. I get a lot of attention and feel very attractive to girls. I feel very relaxed and calm (like James Bond haha) I know your struggle of being "in the moment" but I guess Im a different person than you. I never feel the urge to "pick up" or seduce girls, maybe a little with AM on. Naturally im not a "player" or bad boy, Im a very nice guy, gentleman, self confident and don't "search" girls just to get laid.I mean if i get laid, great, but I don't go for it like some guys in those pua videos on youtube for example. I don't know any of these techniques pua artists do. For me these guys are just creepy, totally unnatural (maybe its natural but very uncommon especialy here in my region) When girls open me and show they are attracted I show them that I am attracted too, but not in a creepy way, but funny, laid back,one or two compliments little bit of touching and if it leads to sex, great, if not, also great..I don't try hard to get a girl to slepp with me, i just mirror her attraction towards me. I don't know, maybe its harder with older women, but girls my age don't need the biggest alpha male in the world (like these pua guys trying to be) I did never got any gay hits, maybe because there are not many of them where I live, I know only 2 guys who are gay in college but they never would try anything cause one of them flirted with me once (before mones) and he got almost kicked his ass blue and red cause he was so persistent even after telling him to quit flirt with me. I have nothing against these people but, please stay away from my butt if you want to flirt with me, if you're cool without any attentions, its ok, but, not if youre hitting on me haha then youre getting a mouthwash from my right fist haha

(10-25-2015 2:48 AM)Eduardo Wrote:  Exactly, how I said before, its like in those axe commercials. I get a lot of attention and feel very attractive to girls. I feel very relaxed and calm (like James Bond haha) I know your struggle of being "in the moment" but I guess Im a different person than you. I never feel the urge to "pick up" or seduce girls, maybe a little with AM on. Naturally im not a "player" or bad boy, Im a very nice guy, gentleman, self confident and don't "search" girls just to get laid.I mean if i get laid, great, but I don't go for it like some guys in those pua videos on youtube for example. I don't know any of these techniques pua artists do. For me these guys are just creepy, totally unnatural (maybe its natural but very uncommon especialy here in my region) When girls open me and show they are attracted I show them that I am attracted too, but not in a creepy way, but funny, laid back,one or two compliments little bit of touching and if it leads to sex, great, if not, also great..I don't try hard to get a girl to slepp with me, i just mirror her attraction towards me. I don't know, maybe its harder with older women, but girls my age don't need the biggest alpha male in the world (like these pua guys trying to be) I did never got any gay hits, maybe because there are not many of them where I live, I know only 2 guys who are gay in college but they never would try anything cause one of them flirted with me once (before mones) and he got almost kicked his ass blue and red cause he was so persistent even after telling him to quit flirt with me. I have nothing against these people but, please stay away from my butt if you want to flirt with me, if you're cool without any attentions, its ok, but, not if youre hitting on me haha then youre getting a mouthwash from my right fist haha

Can you answer my question:
Did you use it solo to close? How many sprays?

(10-25-2015 4:52 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Can you answer my question:
Did you use it solo to close? How many sprays?

99% of the time i wear it solo at 1 spray. In the beginning i tried 2 and 3 sprays with no difference, so I wear only 1 spray. I tried combining it with xist and wolf a few times. Scent is L&S but it pairs fine with CH Men or One Million.

With 2 sprays people tend to give aggressive IOI's but at the same time they are a bit scared/unconfortable with me around them. Im not sure if they have a instant Attraction and want to hide it or if im sending a too Sexual vibe that could scare them.

With 1 spray theyre subtle and i get alot of attention, but much more soft than with 2 sprays. 2 sprays you can clealy see girls CHECKING me out with dilated pupils, like if they had been attracted to me but then when they find out i caught them checking me out, they tend to dont look at me anymore lol. thats the experience i had with it.

(10-25-2015 6:00 AM)Eduardo Wrote:  99% of the time i wear it solo at 1 spray. In the beginning i tried 2 and 3 sprays with no difference, so I wear only 1 spray. I tried combining it with xist and wolf a few times. Scent is L&S but it pairs fine with CH Men or One Million.

Eduardo,

Since you've had such fantastic experience with l2k v1 please post it and others in the top 5 products of 2015 thread... We need as much feedback there as possible.

dsouza