(05-31-2016 4:47 PM)R6Rider512 Wrote:  UPDATE: well I took your advice and told her goodbye. I wish I could say it wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but it was.

I probably went about it in the worst/dumbest way possible but it's done. She texted over lunch wanting a favor and I told her I didn't have time. She got all butt hurt and said she's gonna stop talking to me for a while because lately I've been treating her like shit and she doesn't like. Hmm sound familiar to anyone? We had an argument about how she just wants to be friends and I can't let go of wanting to be more. She pulled the age old power move of threatening to end it because she wasn't getting her way. Here I think I made a mistake and a step in the right direction at the same time. I told her she was right I did love her more than anything in the world and I can't let go of my feelings. If fact you love and need me just as much but I made it too easy for you so you don't need to be with me. I let you have your cake and eat it too I let you have all the benefits of being with me without having to be with me.

We always fight about how I cant let my feelings go and be just friends. Or why I can't just get along with him and co exist. So I know I shot myself in the foot here but I ended it with. "I don't want him in my life I can never see him as anything more than the piece of shit that stole everything I hold hear, my family. My feelings for you are never going to change so if you have to go then go no ones stopping you. I'm in love with you but if this has to be goodby then goodbye."

I know I know handled like a beta bitch but I made my point.

Beta? This is probably the most alpha and mature decision which you have ever made. How you went about it isn't important, the fact is that you are moving forward. In the future, you will look back and wonder why the fuck you took so long to wake up. Now, trust me when I say this, don't look back. Get yourself an arsenal of alpha / social / sexual mones. Go out there with the priceless freedom which you have earned and enjoy them, enjoy being a hunter. You have shed a huge weight from your shoulders, so go on and celebrate your life!

(05-31-2016 4:47 PM)R6Rider512 Wrote:  UPDATE: well I took your advice and told her goodbye. I wish I could say it wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but it was.

I probably went about it in the worst/dumbest way possible but it's done. She texted over lunch wanting a favor and I told her I didn't have time. She got all butt hurt and said she's gonna stop talking to me for a while because lately I've been treating her like shit and she doesn't like. Hmm sound familiar to anyone? We had an argument about how she just wants to be friends and I can't let go of wanting to be more. She pulled the age old power move of threatening to end it because she wasn't getting her way. Here I think I made a mistake and a step in the right direction at the same time. I told her she was right I did love her more than anything in the world and I can't let go of my feelings. If fact you love and need me just as much but I made it too easy for you so you don't need to be with me. I let you have your cake and eat it too I let you have all the benefits of being with me without having to be with me.

We always fight about how I cant let my feelings go and be just friends. Or why I can't just get along with him and co exist. So I know I shot myself in the foot here but I ended it with. "I don't want him in my life I can never see him as anything more than the piece of shit that stole everything I hold hear, my family. My feelings for you are never going to change so if you have to go then go no ones stopping you. I'm in love with you but if this has to be goodby then goodbye."

I know I know handled like a beta bitch but I made my point.

I know I said I wasn't gonna respond anymore, but I have to tell you ... you haven't done the hardest part yet, and I hope you're not trying to look manly in everybody's eyes. The hardest part is gonna be when WANTING TO SEE HER starts haunting you. Most women, when they KNOW you still care, they also KNOW all they have to do is sit back and WAIT. When your mind starts craving her company, you better have something to do that takes you out of the house. Sitting home playing computer games and keeping your eyes on the phone waiting for her to call is a NO NO!

And you're NEVER suppose to treat her like shit. BETA!!! Instead, treat her nicely, give her a nice and friendly HELLO, and keep it moving. Hopefully, you'll make it through. And be advised, sometimes SECOND CHANCES work, but in most cases where one side KNOWS they have the upper hand, they come back into your life, and everything's fine for a minute; and then the same shit starts happening all over again. People will always do what you let them get away with.

Again, GOOD LUCK!

(05-31-2016 6:57 PM)MMM Wrote:  And you're NEVER suppose to treat her like shit. BETA

just because she SAYS or FEELS like he's treating her like shit doesn't mean that's the case. For her, treating her like shit is not doing what she says. I get this comment all the time. But i'm not actually treating her like shit, i'm just not a pushover. being "nice" to someone who is sleeping and living with your best friend, to me that is beta. it's not about being nice or treating her like shit. what it comes down to is being indifferent. don't treat her like shit and don't be nice to her, just ignore her. treating her like shit or being nice to her is still giving her attention which is what she wants.

(05-31-2016 7:08 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  just because she SAYS or FEELS like he's treating her like shit doesn't mean that's the case. For her, treating her like shit is not doing what she says. I get this comment all the time. But i'm not actually treating her like shit, i'm just not a pushover. being "nice" to someone who is sleeping and living with your best friend, to me that is beta. it's not about being nice or treating her like shit. what it comes down to is being indifferent. don't treat her like shit and don't be nice to her, just ignore her. treating her like shit or being nice to her is still giving her attention which is what she wants.

AGREE! Reverse psychology is a woman's weapon of choice when the Power of Pussy is not working.

You say being nice is BETA. I say being nice, but NOT giving her the time of day is MANLY. I also say acting like a dick shows her she's winning and has the power to MAKE you act in such a way. But still, I get your point.

(05-31-2016 7:18 PM)MMM Wrote:  You say being nice is BETA.

depending on the circumstances. in this case I would say it's more beta. i'm not going to be nice to someone that just pissed in my cornflakes!! i think the best approach is to be neither nice nor a dick, just ignore and move on and act like it doesn't bother you anymore. that's what will really piss her off!

(05-31-2016 7:22 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  
act like it doesn't bother you anymore. that's what will really piss her off!

HaHa! Same idea/reasoning, different methods!

(05-31-2016 4:47 PM)R6Rider512 Wrote:  UPDATE: well I took your advice and told her goodbye. I wish I could say it wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but it was.

I probably went about it in the worst/dumbest way possible but it's done. She texted over lunch wanting a favor and I told her I didn't have time. She got all butt hurt and said she's gonna stop talking to me for a while because lately I've been treating her like shit and she doesn't like. Hmm sound familiar to anyone? We had an argument about how she just wants to be friends and I can't let go of wanting to be more. She pulled the age old power move of threatening to end it because she wasn't getting her way. Here I think I made a mistake and a step in the right direction at the same time. I told her she was right I did love her more than anything in the world and I can't let go of my feelings. If fact you love and need me just as much but I made it too easy for you so you don't need to be with me. I let you have your cake and eat it too I let you have all the benefits of being with me without having to be with me.

We always fight about how I cant let my feelings go and be just friends. Or why I can't just get along with him and co exist. So I know I shot myself in the foot here but I ended it with. "I don't want him in my life I can never see him as anything more than the piece of shit that stole everything I hold hear, my family. My feelings for you are never going to change so if you have to go then go no ones stopping you. I'm in love with you but if this has to be goodby then goodbye."

I know I know handled like a beta bitch but I made my point.

Congrats !!!

It is not easy but you did it.

Welcome to new life. Stick with your decision. You will have a great life ahead.

(05-31-2016 4:47 PM)R6Rider512 Wrote:  UPDATE: well I took your advice and told her goodbye. I wish I could say it wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but it was.

I probably went about it in the worst/dumbest way possible but it's done. She texted over lunch wanting a favor and I told her I didn't have time. She got all butt hurt and said she's gonna stop talking to me for a while because lately I've been treating her like shit and she doesn't like. Hmm sound familiar to anyone? We had an argument about how she just wants to be friends and I can't let go of wanting to be more. She pulled the age old power move of threatening to end it because she wasn't getting her way. Here I think I made a mistake and a step in the right direction at the same time. I told her she was right I did love her more than anything in the world and I can't let go of my feelings. If fact you love and need me just as much but I made it too easy for you so you don't need to be with me. I let you have your cake and eat it too I let you have all the benefits of being with me without having to be with me.

We always fight about how I cant let my feelings go and be just friends. Or why I can't just get along with him and co exist. So I know I shot myself in the foot here but I ended it with. "I don't want him in my life I can never see him as anything more than the piece of shit that stole everything I hold hear, my family. My feelings for you are never going to change so if you have to go then go no ones stopping you. I'm in love with you but if this has to be goodby then goodbye."

I know I know handled like a beta bitch but I made my point.

You have done good. Now, go enjoy yourself, it's easier said than done. I know exactly how you feel, so hang on in there. You will come through this.

Hey man, congratulations. Seriously its not easy stepping up to the plate and letting a girl go when in your mind shes the only thing you want. Shit takes courage, and shows a lot of heart.

This is a huge step in the right direction, and is something most men don't have the guts to do. I have been there, and its sucks man, but it is so much better when you find a girl who likes you for you right off the bat, which WILL happen. Fuck there are so many different hot and awesome women out there. Good shit doing the tough thing.

Just read your story. It's nice to see so many guys giving such passionate advice. Most of us have been betas before and know what it's like, so we get really fired up about helping a fellow brother in need.

I agree to the advice given here. I'll add my piece. I think it's important for you to love yourself more. It seems to me that you love her more than you love yourself, to the point you're catering to her needs more than yours. I believe that to have long term happiness, it's important to love yourself more than anyone else. Prioritise your needs before any woman's. What do you need from her? Whatever you need from any woman, you'll find many other women who will be able to fulfil those needs just as well or even better. There are so many other fish in the ocean. Don't think that she's the only one for you, you'll find other women you'll fall in love for just as deeply, or even deeper. If this woman doesn't give you what you want, boot her out of your life and find another one. Just delete her from your mind. Your peace of mind and happiness are far more important than her.

Don't text her, don't call her, don't contact her in any way, don't even think about her. If she contacts you, just tell her she doesn't give you what you want, so you're gone. Start refocusing your energy and attention into your own life. Your work, health, diet, social life, wardrobe etc. When you're ready go out and find new women. Wish you all the best mate.