Reading this thread has peaked my interest. I followed AMANKIND's link and picked up a sample of iso super e. Looking forward to seeing how this works for me as both a phero enhancer as well as just a scent to wear. I just read that Aventus is allegedly 18% iso super e and that Fahrenheit contained 45%. I was looking at Wikipedia so who knows if it is accurate.

(12-10-2015 10:09 AM)ak4d4 Wrote:  Ekscentra would know more probably as to why vendors would or wouldnt use it.

GorchFock made an excellent point on Hedione some time ago, and thinking on this, the same problem likely plagues IES as well. It will increase the diffusion of the entire mix, including buffers. This can result in some unpredictable efgects in excess, which would explain why thundr is so conservative with its use, and why other vendors ignore it entirely.

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(12-10-2015 1:38 PM)Snoopyace Wrote:  Reading this thread has peaked my interest. I followed AMANKIND's link and picked up a sample of iso super e. Looking forward to seeing how this works for me as both a phero enhancer as well as just a scent to wear. I just read that Aventus is allegedly 18% iso super e and that Fahrenheit contained 45%. I was looking at Wikipedia so who knows if it is accurate.

It makes sense. Aventus supposedly contained a decent amount of Oakmoss before the ban, and the two have similar properties. Similar enough to where I don't expect to be using synthetics for much longer.

(12-10-2015 1:19 PM)thundr Wrote:  The iso e from perfumers apprentice is from IFF and is concentrated. You are going to want to dilute it.

Molecule 01 is an EDT. This means it is diluted iso e in a carrier like alcohol.

Just depends on whether you like making your own kool aid or buying it premixed.

Core was the bridge between molecule 01 and pheromones.

So how well do you think IES or Timbersilk would work sprayed first and then with an application of Titan over it?

(12-10-2015 12:39 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  Hey BE, i also bought iso from perfumers apprentice. I mixed it with DPG. Do you find it smells similar to molecule 01?

Hi Spider-mone, I think it smells similar, but since the one from them is concentrated, it seems stronger, imo. I know we're supposed to dilute it, but I haven't gotten the Chance to get alcohol to dilute it with wish I could just buy moonshine, but I don't think the high % version needed is legal in my state.

(12-09-2015 6:46 PM)dorfmeister Wrote:  I've been checking out these on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QA2CYUG...timbersilk

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EBNQHEU...G0MK64GM1P

I got this and combined it with some timbersilk i got from the perfume apprentice.

(12-10-2015 3:25 PM)ak4d4 Wrote:  I got this and combined it with some timbersilk i got from the perfume apprentice.

I plant to buy the IES from that seller unless somebody convinces me that there is a compellibg reason to choose Timbersilk instead.

(12-10-2015 3:49 PM)dorfmeister Wrote:  I plant to buy the IES from that seller unless somebody convinces me that there is a compellibg reason to choose Timbersilk instead.

Why not get it from PA and mix it yourself? At least you know you're getting the real thing and ends up being cheaper