(12-20-2014 5:18 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Must be cops in there sending my test levels through the roof..

I received an email from Garry before I made my first OD purchase saying that he did not put cops in Overdose. He said: "if I put copulins in there, you would smell it."

(12-21-2014 8:37 PM)Mars82 Wrote:  I received an email from Garry before I made my first OD purchase saying that he did not put cops in Overdose. He said: "if I put copulins in there, you would smell it."

What would cause such a huge spike in test making me breakout then? I can wear 2 drops primitive which is like 18 mcg a drop or 36 mcg none , and no breakout, yet 1/4 pump of OD and I break out everywhere.

Allergy? Extremely huge none dose in 1/4 pump OD???

Could it be?

(12-25-2014 10:04 PM)dsouza Wrote:  What would cause such a huge spike in test making me breakout then? I can wear 2 drops primitive which is like 18 mcg a drop or 36 mcg none , and no breakout, yet 1/4 pump of OD and I break out everywhere.

Allergy? Extremely huge none dose in 1/4 pump OD???

Could it be?

Too many variables at this point to figure this out. Primitive is not straight Androstenone.

Try a straight Androstenone spray and see if it boosts your testosterone enough to make you break out. Then we will be closer to solving this mystery. You can purchase Androstenone sprays at Pheromone XS & Andriotics.

(12-25-2014 11:51 PM)metaltree Wrote:  Too many variables at this point to figure this out. Primitive is not straight Androstenone.

Try a straight Androstenone spray and see if it boosts your testosterone enough to make you break out. Then we will be closer to solving this mystery. You can purchase Androstenone sprays at Pheromone XS & Andriotics.

So far only desire me oil at 1 drop or od at any dose , even 1/4 pump, make me break out like an 18 y.o teenager. Furthermore the breakout is even on my back and shoulders and face. Both these products are either gel or oils. Carrier could also be an issue.

It's been pointed out that OD doesn't have cops by Garry.. Garry also says AV has none.. Experience of forum users have proved o.w.

If it is cops that would explain it. A sudden surge in test like 100% or more is usually only due to cops.

Have you tried applying pure cops (single molecule) to your skin to see what happens?

I don't know about AV and don't really care about ingredients, but no none?What is that potent smell that stays on and strong for so long?Don't forget it's an alcohol mix.

there's Androstenone in AV,but not much.i can wear AV liberally and no Androstenone aggression or OD.if I apply a few drops of predominant none product,the aggression and anger kicks in real quick.with AV it's kinda smooth even with generous amount..but the hits are blatant,powerful just like a boss..not quite a horny product like New Pheromone Additive or edge.AV is more like a STRONG SEXY man with sensuality and demand respect.i suspect that there's a molecule in AV that cause intimidation

(12-26-2014 4:35 AM)stefdude Wrote:  I don't know about AV and don't really care about ingredients, but no none?What is that potent smell that stays on and strong for so long?Don't forget it's an alcohol mix.

There isn't any Androstenone in AV at all. There's something else in it.

It doesn't smell like none at all.

OD has TONS of none in it...you can smell it after it dries and then heats up on your body abit.

I don't think Primative has much none in it either. I've tested it out a few times ( actually testing it today again), and doesn't seem to turn my woman on at all either. She's turned on by AV, and OD. Gets very horny and wet with New Pheromone Additive, Turn Up The Heat, and P75.

(12-26-2014 8:25 AM)xtraspecial Wrote:  I don't think Primative has much none in it either. I've tested it out a few times ( actually testing it today again), and doesn't seem to turn my woman on at all either. She's turned on by AV, and OD. Gets very horny and wet with New Pheromone Additive, Turn Up The Heat, and P75.

IF I MAY ... how is your woman, X; and how much of those do the trick; and which one out of those you mentioned above gets THE BOSS OF WHAT MAKES HER HORNY tag?

Mucho thanks!

(12-26-2014 4:11 AM)kimosabe Wrote:  Have you tried applying pure cops (single molecule) to your skin to see what happens?

The only cops I've used that come close to pure is desire me oil from pheromones xs... that causes massive breakouts.

I stopped using it since.

Did cause a massive rise in test as I was horny as hell from it. Noticed it attracted mostly black women to me.