AV is nice IOI, blatant attraction. However, I find if there’s men around they will steal the chick you’re hitting on. Hence, several people have termed AV the "girlfriend stealer". You need really good game to close with it.. A game. Isolating a chick is critical with AV...moreso than say M3X (2017) which has that Velcro effect keeping women glued to the wearer, and conversation flow smooth as silk. Not sure about m3x 2019 as I haven't tested it enough.

(05-20-2019 3:15 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Hence, several people have termed AV the "girlfriend stealer".

Could you tell me more about this?

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(05-20-2019 3:15 AM)dsouza Wrote:  AV is nice IOI, blatant attraction. However, I find if there’s men around they will steal the chick you’re hitting on. Hence, several people have termed AV the "girlfriend stealer". You need really good game to close with it.. A game. Isolating a chick is critical with AV...moreso than say M3X (2017) which has that Velcro effect keeping women glued to the wearer, and conversation flow smooth as silk. Not sure about m3x 2019 as I haven't tested it enough.

although im still havnt made my mind on the subject, i kinda get that feeling as well from my experience.

if i go low dose as an add on though, i dont recall having a problem.

my explanation is so:
i would say it makes women more attracted to guys in general, and obviously also very horny if they are in the right time of the month.
add that to the probably pretty hard to maintain aura it projects, and it makes women more ballsy and shameless, you got a problem.

i think it sparks some primal competative hornieness in them, that is inspired by the alpha of all alpha they sense.
they then want to find and FUCK that alpha.

every second you communicate with them, you might react in a way that will make them disqualify you as the prime alpha, and then they might identify a random men that didnt got the chance to do so, as that alpha.

also, if someone will try to steal youre girl in a solid way, she will be 100000 times more likely to respond to that, unless maybe you are the manifestation of alphaness in her mind.

Update on my 2019 Top 5

Thought i love many phero company's i think that LAL trumps Again..

1. BW
2. NA/NAG
3. Nude
4. SOB (oil)
5. AV

HM : Xist (oil), GOA, NNPA

I think with the above you got in my opinion the best solo or combo options right now!

Cheers!

so after wearing pheromones daily for almost a year, i feel like i have established a clear top 5 list:
in not particular order:

-wolf
-nude
-xist
-DP

-swoon\the hookup - those are a tier below for me.

my top 4 Pheromones are all amazing, i can wear each one of them at any situation and will have an upgrade, i will almost never feel like i have nothing on me with them.
they are super consistent and very effective.

i can combine them in any way and any number of them, and will have a super smooth day socially, even if i am not feeling my best.
nude and wolf makes me at least 100% more social then what i am at the time.
i will put them on and suddenly its so much easier to just love people and communicate with them.

xist will have the reset effect. i can meet someone that i had a weird vibe with for some reason, and with xist he will suddenly be nice and happy to see me.
its almost like you can do no wrong, people will forget the bad feeling they might had with you (to some extent) and so its so much easier to charm them and make them like you, no matter what kind of start you had.

DP- do i really need to talk about it?
men will admire, women will be wet.
if you like to get look at, put this on.

Hombre,

I have never used DP. Can you elaborate more on this? What is the success rate with picking up girls with DP itself of mix?

(06-09-2019 4:58 AM)Fiedler Wrote:  Hombre,

I have never used DP. Can you elaborate more on this? What is the success rate with picking up girls with DP itself of mix?

its kind of ridicules talking about success rate picking up girls with mones.

first of all, its not like i have statistics for it, and even if i would write down the statistics, i would never have close to enough girls i am hooking up with, to create a somewhat valid statistical correlation.

i will say its very very powerful, and if you put high doses you will polarize a lot, which mean you will have a very easy time with the sluts in heat.

in lower doses, just pure awesomeness, statues, sexual, attractive.
read the dirty primitive thread for more info.

Thank you for these top-5 lists. I read every single one of them. Especially the posts with detail on your experiences with these products and the effects you get. Those posts are super helpful in figuring out what to try.

May I suggest Homme Fatale as at least an honorable mention?
Though, I am not as experienced as some of these veterans are.
I gotta say it's gotten me the most hits.

Havent done one yet this year.

Here's my list from the Top in 2018 thread:

(10-05-2018 5:41 AM)Macro Wrote:  Realised I haven't done a top 5 here yet.
In no particular order;

Nude Alpha - such a versatile, subtle mix. Works in the background, good for work, great for girls I've got to know already and have some sexual tension with. Social, status, bonding, attraction.

Xist - never solo, use it to smooth out edges, buffer or balance out hard hitting products. Certainly the most frequently used mone in my arsenal.

Evolve - my sexual mone, often used in mixes (especially with Xist) and solo too (usually when I know I'm fucking and want to leave them impressed).

M3X - preferred in social settings, but a great date product too. Social, sexual, disinhibiting, people are perfectly happy following you, it's also a bit dangerous. If you're comfortable taking the lead / being assertive, this works wonders.

Bad Wolf - the new addition to my list, this is like M3Xs big bad brother. It's more alpha, more dangerous, still produces disinhibition and people will follow if you can take the lead. Less social but more sexual than M3X. Again, if you're comfortable taking the lead / being assertive, this works wonders.

Only one change. Xist out Chamber36 in. It maybe because now that Im older and more experienced i don't need Xist to smoothen out hard hitting mones. Significant drop in xist usage.

Chamber36 - is the smoothest alpha I've worn. Smoother (not better) than A314 rev32. Very social, people want to hang out with you, help you, etc yet still alpha. This is my daily wear. One of the most underrated products imo.