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Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
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Post: #41
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 8:21 AM

(05-16-2015 1:30 PM)moe Wrote:  a problem with diffusion

im starting to think a lot of people's problems of not seeing effects or thinking ghosting is happening, is simply due to lack of diffusion, people taking for granted how important it is...
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RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 8:35 AM

(05-24-2015 8:21 AM)XyzN Wrote:  im starting to think a lot of people's problems of not seeing effects or thinking ghosting is happening, is simply due to lack of diffusion, people taking for granted how important it is...


It appears that diffusion and lack of congruence are two of the key factors in success with mones.

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LAL : Bad Wolf, Nude Alpha, Voodoo, Aqua Vitae, Max T-150 Cops Stick, Dirty Primitive, Primitive
AD : LIIK (v?-pre 2015 and v2 Oct 2016), Alfa Masschio (pre 2015), Glace
Androtics : A314 (31), Instant Shine, Ammo, MX331-334, MX292 (original), TUTH, CTTM, Spaceland, Instant Jerk, Instant Honesty
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Apex : Core (v1), Imprint, Dionysos, Orbital, M3X. Manimal (oil)
PXS : SOB (Oil/spray), Cohesion (oil/spray), Evolve (oil), Domination, Xist (oil/spray), Connections, Love Boat, Flirt, Bliss, Exotica, Desire Me (oil), Taboo (spray/oil), Ascend (oil), API (oil)
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Post: #43
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 12:49 PM

Uber + Fishdude Mix

Driver : late 30s white male

Dosage : 2 sprays

Cover : Versace Eros

Environment : Uber vehicle

Duration : 10hrs (2 days)

Targets : 20-50yrs old (about 30 customers)

Self effects :
none

Pros :
Everyone is your best friend

+ Had everyone's attention all night

+ Passengers had motor-mouth

+ All passengers very friendly

Cons : No significant attraction + Scent is overpowering (Neroli)

Notes : This is a mix that Fishdude sent to me for testing (I'll let him disclose the ingredients if he wants). I think that this is what IS or Glace should have been. Heavy mix with an emphasis on friendly behavior; might be great for sales. I would classify this as a heavy social (not quite original mx297, but the scent really reminded me of IS, so that could have been a factor).

Needs further testing in other environments.

Context Notes : none

Feedback : Ideas?

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AD : LIIK (v?-pre 2015 and v2 Oct 2016), Alfa Masschio (pre 2015), Glace
Androtics : A314 (31), Instant Shine, Ammo, MX331-334, MX292 (original), TUTH, CTTM, Spaceland, Instant Jerk, Instant Honesty
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Apex : Core (v1), Imprint, Dionysos, Orbital, M3X. Manimal (oil)
PXS : SOB (Oil/spray), Cohesion (oil/spray), Evolve (oil), Domination, Xist (oil/spray), Connections, Love Boat, Flirt, Bliss, Exotica, Desire Me (oil), Taboo (spray/oil), Ascend (oil), API (oil)
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Post: #44
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 12:54 PM

(05-24-2015 8:21 AM)XyzN Wrote:  im starting to think a lot of people's problems of not seeing effects or thinking ghosting is happening, is simply due to lack of diffusion, people taking for granted how important it is...

Anyone has any tips for better diffusion?
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Post: #45
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 6:57 PM

(05-24-2015 7:55 AM)theLaw Wrote:  Uber + EV + Coh + Ascend + Core

Did you ever try adding Core to the previous mix of SOB/Coh/Evolve?


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Post: #46
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
05-24-2015 7:02 PM

(05-24-2015 6:57 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  Did you ever try adding Core to the previous mix of SOB/Coh/Evolve?


Not yet.

Products :

LAL : Bad Wolf, Nude Alpha, Voodoo, Aqua Vitae, Max T-150 Cops Stick, Dirty Primitive, Primitive
AD : LIIK (v?-pre 2015 and v2 Oct 2016), Alfa Masschio (pre 2015), Glace
Androtics : A314 (31), Instant Shine, Ammo, MX331-334, MX292 (original), TUTH, CTTM, Spaceland, Instant Jerk, Instant Honesty
LS : (N) New Pheromone Additive
PT : The Hookup, Captain, GOA, AT
Apex : Core (v1), Imprint, Dionysos, Orbital, M3X. Manimal (oil)
PXS : SOB (Oil/spray), Cohesion (oil/spray), Evolve (oil), Domination, Xist (oil/spray), Connections, Love Boat, Flirt, Bliss, Exotica, Desire Me (oil), Taboo (spray/oil), Ascend (oil), API (oil)
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Post: #47
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
06-04-2015 12:01 AM

(05-10-2015 9:53 AM)theLaw Wrote:  Have you found any mixes that work consistently time and time again?

None unfortunately. That's why I'm still lurking in the forum heheh. But I got some solid grips on some of my staples or at least know the perimeters of what those products could accomplish.

I thoroughly enjoyed your Uber reports by the way. I think Uber testing is the next to ideal place to try out mixes.

Besides age/gender I would also pay attention to race/ethnicity of the targets as mones work a bit differently across groups.
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Post: #48
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
06-14-2015 8:30 AM

Uber + Ev + Coh + SOB (heavy)

Driver : late 30s white male

Dosage : EV (1.5 drops) + Coh (2 drops) + SOB (2 sprays + 2 sprays later)

Cover : Armani Code

Environment :
Uber vehicle

Duration : 7hrs

Targets : 20-50yrs old (about 40 customers)

Self effects :
none

Pros : Standard positive reactions as usual with steady attraction across the board

+ Just wanted to write a review to talk about 2 particular interactions :

+ Pick girl up from strip club (not a dancer), and after some brief flirting she says "so is this what you do, you just drive girls around all night and fuck with them?" Her overall response was frustration + confusion + attraction, to the point that she asked at one point " is this a joke-are their hidden cameras somewhere". I've seen this confusion before, but this was a bit extreme. It appeared that she had a bitch shield, but it was almost like she knew it was worthless; like her value wasn't high enough to even try.

+ Second was a group of girls where one was an Olympic level bitch. Now normally, I would expect her type to be extremely difficult (all guns blazing just for fun shit tests-pushing all buttons), but she held back. Again, it appeared to be a strange value disparity. As they left, I noticed that she had left a tip on the seat (not a word during the exit).

Cons : need a better cover than Armani Code

Notes : There is something to this mix, that with the proper diffusion, could potentially be something significant. The only problem is handling the "asshole" vibe. People react as if they don't believe you; not that they think you're lying, but more talking down to them-condescending. I wonder what SOB + AM would do?

Also noticed that, yet again, my sweat really stinks while wearing SOB. This doesn't happen with Ascend or pure Cops.
Needs further testing in other environments.

Context Notes : none

Feedback : Ideas?

Products :

LAL : Bad Wolf, Nude Alpha, Voodoo, Aqua Vitae, Max T-150 Cops Stick, Dirty Primitive, Primitive
AD : LIIK (v?-pre 2015 and v2 Oct 2016), Alfa Masschio (pre 2015), Glace
Androtics : A314 (31), Instant Shine, Ammo, MX331-334, MX292 (original), TUTH, CTTM, Spaceland, Instant Jerk, Instant Honesty
LS : (N) New Pheromone Additive
PT : The Hookup, Captain, GOA, AT
Apex : Core (v1), Imprint, Dionysos, Orbital, M3X. Manimal (oil)
PXS : SOB (Oil/spray), Cohesion (oil/spray), Evolve (oil), Domination, Xist (oil/spray), Connections, Love Boat, Flirt, Bliss, Exotica, Desire Me (oil), Taboo (spray/oil), Ascend (oil), API (oil)
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Post: #49
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
06-14-2015 9:26 AM

Does cops+dienone work with no issue? I heard it gives out confusing signals.

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Post: #50
RE: Uber + Evolve/Cohesion/SOB
06-14-2015 10:02 AM

theLaw...Seems like a VERY strong signature.

Can't say that I have read all of your posts, but what kind of response did you get with just Evolve and Cohesion?

I have never worn SOB, but with one spray of Cohesion and one spray of Evolve, I have seen women have some blatant responses with zero escalation...They usually have a had a few drinks too and their friends usually grab them quickly and apologize. With no alcohol, they are usually less blatant, but with strong hinting. They basically want you to ask.

Another experiment that might make sense is evolve, cohesion, and connections. So sexual, comfort, and talkative....
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