(06-03-2013 11:24 AM)polarvoid Wrote:  There are quite a few of us on both boards TBH. ;)

Lol, I think I know now.

(05-31-2013 9:28 AM)polarvoid Wrote:  It would still be worth trying one drop of Cohesion up around your neck - As well as being in an oil, whatever else Steve has in the mix does help the negative effects no-end. I get barely any with Cohesion.

I also find the spot just below the ears/behind the jawline really good for temp/diffusion. If you can tolerate even part of your dose up there it could help better.

I have been applying A314 to the backs of my ears/ear lobes, and one drop of Cohesion to my inner forearms (2 drops in total). I spread the cohesion oil right along each inner arm from wrist to crook of elbow, to maximise the surface area. I work in short-sleeved shirts, and it's about 70 degrees in my office. I keep getting whiffs of the pepper/numeg throughout the day, so I feel the Cohesion is diffusing quite well.

Do you think that the ears/neck are warmer and would diffuse better? I think, in my situation, my arms offer a much greater surface area which is almost as warm as my ears. And it keeps the Cohesion away from my own nose!

In those conditions, yes - just fine for diffusion but a bit cooler and I would go for the neck/throat/ear area before the forearms every time.

Oh and APi is beginning to look very promising indeed for fallout - One of my current prospects is beginning to get a bit stalkerish after just five exposures! She sought me out after work last night and spent some time trying to get me to go for dinner with her.

That was 2-3 drops APi/2 drops Cohesion, repeated exposure/withdrawl over six days. And the young Architect lass spotted us - see what happens the next time I meet her. Although she's only on two APi exposures so far.

(06-04-2013 4:11 AM)polarvoid Wrote:  In those conditions, yes - just fine for diffusion but a bit cooler and I would go for the neck/throat/ear area before the forearms every time.

Oh and APi is beginning to look very promising indeed for fallout - One of my current prospects is beginning to get a bit stalkerish after just five exposures! She sought me out after work last night and spent some time trying to get me to go for dinner with her.

That was 2-3 drops APi/2 drops Cohesion, repeated exposure/withdrawl over six days. And the young Architect lass spotted us - see what happens the next time I meet her. Although she's only on two APi exposures so far.

Very interesting! You were only wearing APi and Cohesion? Did you add any Evolve later in the day? Sounds like APi could take the place of A314. So what do I do with my Ascend? !
I'm looking forward to switching over to APi, but have to confess that I was able to pick up an unopened bottle of Rev.23 A314 over at the AD trade/sell forum. Couldn't resist seeing what all the fuss was about regarding the "older" version! Once I've tested that against my Rev.31, I'll order some APi and do a direct comparison.
Just by way of a report, applying a thin layer of lanolin-based lotion on my forearms about 30 minutes before applying the Cohesion oil seems to get effects at 8+ hours no problem. I had to deal with a real grouchy client today 8 hours after applying Cohesion + A314, and she was butter in my hands; it was amazing. I think the A314 was probably almost faded, so it must have been mainly the Cohesion effect. Extremely impressive.

Yesterday, no - I would normally add a drop of evolve or another sexual as I left work but yesterday, I was feeling a bit drained after a busy day, so I just went with what I'd had-on. I don't think Evolve is critical to the fallout aspects of the mix, although it is important to help drive the sexual message-home.

The Cohesion had been applied a bit later than the APi - around 1pm, so there was little or no breakdown and yes, I had a small amount of lotion on the app points. That does help the oils last a lot longer, although Ascend+ can be getting a little bit whiffy before the others. With Cohesion, the only time I'm getting breakdown earlier is when I'm quite active.

The last thing I expected was to be held in deep conversation for another two hours! Oh and she's also offering to be there to "help" me at home in a few weeks when I'm going to be off work!

I'm probably going to have to go back to A314 for most of the next two next weeks because I've got stuff going-on at work that its proven itself for and I don't want to be in the testing-zone for that.

Ascend could still prove itself useful in other ways - I've become quite fond of using one drop at the end of the day to refresh my A314 points and it is giving me some interesting combo results and before APi came along, Ascend+ had been proving good as the basis for some lighter daytime mixes at weekends. Even if you are not going to continue it on a regular basis, it is useful to have another string to your bow for other people/situations.

Fun one today. Random Asian girl, twenties, approaching my table with a slightly erratic gait, looking straight at me but rather distracted, coyly twiddling her hair - and walked straight into it, crash! Was she embarrased - and her two friends behind her just creased.

On way back , I met the older Polish fallout prospect, thirties. The one who has already crossed the line once. Straight up-close, hands all over me, standing talking/holding me lightly, staring up into my eyes - "You will tell me all about how you get-on tomorrow?" etc.

Three drops APi and as the bottle is getting low, a big blob of Cohesion - 2-3 drops worth at least, applied about an hour before. Lucky I have two more bottles waiting!

Younger Polish fallout prospect came to see me this morning, bags in tow to say goodbye - She's going back home for a few weeks. Big hug and a kiss on her eventual departure.

Shortly after, met older Asian prospect in the corridor and stopped to chat. It was like she visibly melted in front of me and the gap between us just got less and less as we talked! This is one (ethnic Chinese) who has responded very well to A314 and Ascend- but recoiled/became uncomfortable around Ascend+

However, APi is doing very nicely as well - 3 drops APi , 2 drops Cohesion.

Api is softer than A314 IME,but it can create fallout very nicely.using Api a married woman crave my presence,my attention,go to the toilet to put on lipstick to look more beautiful when engaging me.later on I introduced her to xist and it's an excellent standalone.i can tell that she want me bad.she see me as a trustworthy bf material guy,therefore she share her personal stories with me.she even asked me would I be HER MAN if she ain't married..so yeah Api is a smooth rider,combine with Androstadienone and you're set.if you prefer standalones,xist is very nice but abit more subtle and need repeated exposure