So Raw Power and Dirty were the inspiration for Primitive and Dirty Primitive. The price difference is major and as theLaw pointed out, that $500 "regular price" also sets off my bullshit-meter.

Wow. So I see that after years of not wanting to deal in oils they are now dealing in a lot of oils. Hmmm...

Its hard to believe them after all the shady stuff over the years. Weak a314, mx 297, stealth bans and of course the time they took my reward points lol

(01-28-2018 6:12 AM)Hannibal Wrote:  Seems to be so. A quick research with whois.com showed the same registrant.

androtics.comUpdated 1 second ago
Domain Information
Domain:
androtics.com
Registrar:
eNom, Inc.
Registration Date:
2003-04-28
Expiration Date:
2024-04-28
Updated Date:
2017-03-04
Status:
clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:
mary.ns.cloudflare.com
sam.ns.cloudflare.com
Registrant Contact
Name:
ANDROTICS RESEARCH
Street:
9663 SANTA MONICA BLVD #916
City:
BEVERLY HILLS
State:
CA
Postal Code:
90210

I thought they moved...? >.>

Eta: Wait, did they move to or from LA? Coulda swore it was the latter.

somethings up with AD. my order is frozen since dec. too bad.
i re upped some oil a314 awhile back and it was decent and the spray was rocking it again. in fact, most of what i was getting 2017 was good.

hopefully they turn a new leaf but i won't hold my breath. almost everything there can be sourced elsewhere now and new generation guys are making interesting things that are worth the risk.

apex and xs have replaced the old XS days and I'm crossing my fingers that LAL fixes ordering again.

only bummer left for me is finding a TAC replacement. anyone know where to get a TAC alternative?

(01-29-2018 12:50 AM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  somethings up with AD. my order is frozen since dec. too bad.
i re upped some oil a314 awhile back and it was decent and the spray was rocking it again. in fact, most of what i was getting 2017 was good.

hopefully they turn a new leaf but i won't hold my breath. almost everything there can be sourced elsewhere now and new generation guys are making interesting things that are worth the risk.

apex and xs have replaced the old XS days and I'm crossing my fingers that LAL fixes ordering again.

only bummer left for me is finding a TAC replacement. anyone know where to get a TAC alternative?

How many drops of the A314 did you use btw? The last I got a bottle was March 2016 and for some reason it just seemed to get me ghosted, but not even like Androstenone ghosted just straight up invisible not worthy of any attention ghosted at 2 drops. I think I’m going to put in an order from their new website just to see.

(01-28-2018 7:00 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  So Raw Power and Dirty were the inspiration for Primitive and Dirty Primitive.

A major reason that I moved over here and started giving my business to companies such as XS and Lal is because I was waiting for years for Androitics to finally release Raw Power and Dirty. At the time I was into high Androstenone products.

I wonder if the same people are running the company now that were running it 4 or 5 years ago?

Maybe this new iteration will be a new company with new people. Maybe they will innovate.

So who just ordered two IH togo? Yesterday night there were 3 and I wanted to buy two lol

I ordered:
one IH (2x strength) and one IS. I used the last birthday gift code they gave me ($28 value) but forgot to use my points ($5.43). I can't find a place to cancel my order but oh well. I haven't used IH for years so I'm curious to compare it against Connections.

I put an order in november, P96 oil and some Turn Up The Heat.Still waiting for the order to be shipped.
I hope they deliver.After that will see. .








Here Tezeus,
regards

(01-28-2018 8:45 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  Its hard to believe them after all the shady stuff over the years. Weak a314, mx 297, stealth bans and of course the time they took my reward points lol

^This^

A true mess. Now they are trying to spin it. The truth is that the fucked up their moneymaker A314 which was selling for $110 per bottle ($11 an ml). Believe it or not but A314 was one of the most expensive colognes in the world. Clive Christian No. 1 Perfume Spray for Men, often noted as the most expensive cologne in the world is $15 an ml.

So funny that they inadvertently mentioned that an unnamed woman was making A314. This confirms my theory that Michael Harris was no longer formulating A314. That's why they could not get it right once the 2009 batch ran out.

Instead of working with the members to tweak the formula or being truthful they released a poor copy of A314.

When Brian took over he really did not seem to have a handle on frequent, good and truthful communication. Everything does not have to be spun because in the end the truth is still the truth.

Michael Harris left them a 747 to fly but they only had Cessna pilots.

They are not going out of business they are downsizing.

Edited by mark-in-dallas at Paradox' request