Quote:Wait a minute that neg rep is unsigned, are you saying that Steve told you who the neg repper was. That is highly unethical and a vilolation of there own privacy act. You gotta be kidding me.
No Steve didn't tell me. He's far to professional to do that.
I'll talk through what happened:
Mid way through April (before Steve neg repped Mikoto) I noticed I was getting repeated neg reps of an anonymous poster - I knew that all the reps had to come from the same poster as they all left the same comment, either "---", "---fag" or something similar. It concerned me I was getting repeatedly neg repped by the same person - clearly I had done something to upset someone and I took it personally. I checked the posts I was getting repped for to see if they could be interoperated as offensive but I couldn't find anything. I changed my avatar so it was no longer a picture of myself and went through editing all of my old posts to make them as impersonal as possible to try and avoid this stream of neg reps.
I was still getting the neg reps after I had done that so I sent Steve a PM about it (again before Steve neg repped Mikoto). This PM was sent on the 9th May:
Quote:Hi Steve, I know your the moderator here so I thought you'd be the best person to raise this issue with.
I'm not concerned with reps either positive or negative, but one thing that has caught my eye recently is that I'm continually being neg repped. I've read the posts I'm being neg repped for and I can't see how they would be offensive to anyone. It is also the same person neg repping me as they leave the same "---" comment each time. It's happened to random old posts in my journal and really old thread I started years back when I first joined here. I'm a little uncomfortable about an anonymous person clearly with a grudge against me, but without an indication on why they have a grudge against me.
Essentially I've kept a journal primarily for me so I can learn and monitor my own pheromone progress. If it is a benefit to others as well, then that is great too. I've tried to de-personalise my posts as much as possible but there are still some pretty personal things in my journal about my life and the lives of others. This is what is making me uncomfortable. I don't know what can be done about this; whether my journal can be taken off line like what happened to Catlord's Liquid Lust thread. but the fact there is an anonymous person trawling through my journal and neg repping me is making me very uncomfortable.
Steve responded by giving me a call. He said he knew who was doing the neg repping but that he couldn't tell me who. He said not to take it personally though as the same person had also been neg repping in bulk the majority of posters on PheroTalk with the same --- comment. He was surprised and upset that the person doing the neg repping was a main contributor to the forum, had received a $1000 dollar gift certificate or two from Androtics, had recieved tons of free gifts, and Steve had even helped them out by raising money for him when in a time of need. I suspected I knew who it was but it didn't bother me anymore as I knew it wasn't personal. But, yeah, Steve never told me directly who it was, and the clues he gave me where accidental.
After reading between the lines on what Steve had said on the phone and in this next post that I knew it was Mikoto who had been neg repping everyone :
Quote:Its pretty funny I got a neg rep the other day from a post that I helped someone, that needed Customer Service. What makes it so funny is that, as a party host here on PheroTalk, I get to see who it was that neg repped me with "---fag".
They took 19 points from me with their anti-social behavior. For what I don't know? I didn't make a public spectacle out of the person, I just ignored it and chalked it up to whatever. Out of the 30 or so PM's asking me the same question of who keeps neg repping everybody "---fag" I was actually quite surprised and could easily answer them all now. I care very much about this community and most everybody here. I could easily call the person out on it and really disgrace and discredit them, but it's one of those things. I have certain responsibilities and as much as I despise that type of behavior, its an anonymous system and will remain as such.
It's actually quite sad coming from this person who goes around acting like a friend to everyone and yet at the same time behind their backs calls them derogatory comments. My point is most of us don't go around neg repping for the hell of it calling people derogatory names and not having the balls to sign it. Most of us when we get neg repped chalk it up and let it slide.
Yes I neg repped you Miko and I signed mine. You encouraged a member to harm this company and it was deserved in my opinion. Not only that but then you went and posted all about it on another site. How is that showing your love for AD? Encouraging another member to SPAM our forum and steal our customers? The same company that sends out thousands of dollars worth of free gifts to you and others. The same company that conducted an auction for you to help offset the cost of a family tragedy.
Frustration is one thing, but you crossed the line in that instance and as such I neg repped you for it.
So Androtics is going through something and I would love nothing more than to tell you what, but I can't. This is my job and while you may not care about yours I do mine.
Steve works for Andortics. He got over 30 PM's from long-term, frequent customers stating frustration about the persistent neg repping. He then sees the same guy who's been doing the repping referring people to other sites and he neg reps Mikoto for it. And Mikoto think's that was harsh on him?
Even in the above post where Steve dose expose Mikto, he's clearly biting his tongue.
After Mikoto got his neg rep he then makes it look as if Steve - and by implication Androtics - rules with an iron fist, coming down strong on anyone who mildly steps out of line. Truth is he's been niggling away subtlety until finally Steve does something about it, he then comes here and goes "I love that company, I was only trying to help, look what big mean Steve did to me, blah blah blah
" It's very sly. I wish he'd man up and admit to whatever he was trying to achieve with his neg repping rather than play the dumb, nice guy all the time. He clearly must've had some agenda behind the constant neg reps but so far he's just avoiding it and playing dumb. Whatever, the guy can swivel.
Quote:I am disturbed that Pherotruth is somehow seen as the place to come and complain about Pherotalk. I understand why people do so.
I'm sorry about that Renny and I understand that it looks like I only come here for a fight. That isn't the case - I requested my Pherotalk account be disabled because of Mikoto's constant neg reps so I just thought I raise it with him face to face. With the exception of Mikoto I think you guys here are great and I apologise for brining the tone down for the second time now. I'll leave it now. Sorry.
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