(07-22-2015 4:18 PM)Fishdude Wrote:  ... You need A314, it's consistent with it's effects weather women are ovulating or not....

Can you (or anyone) explain this?

(09-02-2015 10:01 AM)Cremaster Wrote:  Can you (or anyone) explain this?

I'll let fish dude chime in but I just wanted to point out heavy none can bring the bitch outta a woman on the rag unless it's buffered well.

Some tips to break out of the FZ (Not Pheromone related):

1. Start distancing yourself from her.. put some space between you and her.. Call her less or not at all.. don't text her.. Give her room to breath.

THEN when you do see her:
2. Toss in a double sided compliment (basically a backhanded one) increasing attraction and at the same time increasing your value and status
3. Let your new friend see you flirting with other girls. Don't only talk to her. Go up to others in front of her.
4. Show you are a SEXUAL person, but DON'T direct sexual comments directly at HER, her shield will only come up. But show your sexuality.. You have to be seen as a sexual person not an asexual or a gay friend!
5. NEVER EVER tell her how you FEEL about her and how much you want her in your life at this point.. You can save that after you bang her and if you want her for a serious relationship.

That's the homework. Mones may help, but honestly more comfort or love mones (NA etc) will just make her your new comfty best friend if you don't do the above 5 points.

dsouza

(09-05-2015 3:38 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Some tips to break out of the FZ (Not Pheromone related):

1. Start distancing yourself from her.. put some space between you and her.. Call her less or not at all.. don't text her.. Give her room to breath.

THEN when you do see her:
2. Toss in a double sided compliment (basically a backhanded one) increasing attraction and at the same time increasing your value and status
3. Let your new friend see you flirting with other girls. Don't only talk to her. Go up to others in front of her.
4. Show you are a SEXUAL person, but DON'T direct sexual comments directly at HER, her shield will only come up. But show your sexuality.. You have to be seen as a sexual person not an asexual or a gay friend!
5. NEVER EVER tell her how you FEEL about her and how much you want her in your life at this point.. You can save that after you bang her and if you want her for a serious relationship.

That's the homework. Mones may help, but honestly more comfort or love mones (NA etc) will just make her your new comfty best friend if you don't do the above 5 points.

dsouza

Hey Dsouza, I agree with a majority of this, but I really think that #2 could go either way, depending on how sensitive the girl is. I'm not saying to kiss her ass AT ALL, but a little playful banter seems to work well for me without making her feel like an ass.

For me, it also helps to make a move when the time is right, And you will know.

Also, from my personal experience, NA seemed to really draw my target in, extra kino, big pupils and lots of smiles where you know there is something more behind it.

The one statement I made to her was "Listen, I'm not looking to be just friends here. If that's the case, you are wasting my time."

The direct approach, coupled with mones, was a hit for me. Everyone has their own way. This is just my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like......lol

Well a314b sprays I still have rev 32.

FD recommends using a314 alone without none.

I am wondering, how many of you get decent fallout effect out of a314? Sometimes I find the product has literally no self effects on me,other times it does.

ALso without socials taming it, it can make me rather irritable . One reason I liked ammo in there. Makes me more relaxed then I can think better as I have anxiety and take meds for it.

I like FD's recommendation on a314 but I don't see how 5 mcg ammo would screw it up... I mean I'm 45 does 5 mcg none look like a sexual predator at 3 pm in the afternoon lol? I don't find it detracts from the power of a314. Would the ammo be more likely to keep me in the FZ due to the nols and small none etc?

I'm seeing my new "friend" at a hair salon, not a corporate office... so keep in mind venue ..


dsouza

I've heard of people getting fallout with A314 even with Ammo added to it. I wouldn't stress it.

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/nuclear-fal...46140.html

There is no pheromone to break out of the friend zone, the key is Communication
Its really that simple, don't try and use mones to replace honesty

Yes but some mones make it easier to communicate than others.

You can have all the escape the FZ advice but if the mone your wearing kills your sex drive like a heavy est product or the mone makes you have a buddy vibe you may not be congruent enough to get out of the FZ.

FZ implies your seen as weak. Low status . One of the girls.

The key is picking mones and behaviour which presents yourself as an alpha not a gay man or shoulder to cry on.

Comfort in FZ = death

(09-06-2015 7:10 AM)NP17 Wrote:  I've heard of people getting fallout with A314 even with Ammo added to it. I wouldn't stress it.

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/nuclear-fal...46140.html

Not really I read that post and Androstadienone seems to be biggest added ingredient.

Androstadienone in alpha mixes depresses me.

Will a314 ammo cause fallout regardless of additions?

(09-06-2015 9:00 AM)dsouza Wrote:  Not really I read that post and Androstadienone seems to be biggest added ingredient.

Androstadienone in alpha mixes depresses me.

Will a314 ammo cause fallout regardless of additions?

A314 causes the fallout. Ammo will not PREVENT the fallout. The alpha-androstenol in Ammo is known for killing fallout, but the amount in Ammo doesn't seem to be enough to completely eliminate the chance. My point is that you can add Ammo if you want, and you can still hope for fallout.

Try P96 instead of Androstadienone .